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    Wow, buzz a scholar of Catholicism as well! Who'd thunk it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    Wow, buzz a scholar of Catholicism as well! Who'd thunk it?

    Obviously the actual Catholic Scholars are wrong too. At least that's what I'm reading here. I realize you all know much more about the topic than they do.

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    Why don't you expand on your previous comment about the teachings of Rand are unchristian? I'd really like to hear what you are referring too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    You should check again. You disagree with my opinion that the teachings of Rand are unchristian, so I'm not surprised by this.
    I believe that Jesus told us to love our neighbor and be charitable. I don't believe that he told us the govt should do that in our stead.

    Now, that was a statement by a Georgetown scholar about the teachings of the "Church"; presumably the RC church. If you (or he) would cite chapter and verse, it might make for interesting discussion.
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    I like that Romney did

    1. not play the race card

    2. not play the gender card

    3. not play the Ohio or Florida card

    4. not play the media favorite card

    instead he picked someone who will be good for the country, which after all is THE MOST IMPORTANT
    You can see how scared the Dems are by the quick appearance of the blogs signaling the end of the world as we know it for the middle class. Horray he didn't pick someone to balance the ticket but someone that understands economics because Obama's economics are share the wealth which appeals to everyone on the dole. Obamas economics are about his socialistic ideology, and the sooner people figure out he doesn't care about them and getting jobs, but about his ideology, maybe enough will see the light that America needs to get on a new track to expand the job market so investors will invest and small and large businesses will hire.
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    Is Paul Ryan a reformed sinner? He did vote to raise the Debt Ceiling seven times under Bush. One can only hope that he has come to terms with past voting and would work towards eliminating the debt and an annual balanced budget!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinsEdge View Post
    You can see how scared the Dems are by the quick appearance of the blogs signaling the end of the world as we know it for the middle class. Horray he didn't pick someone to balance the ticket but someone that understands economics because Obama's economics are share the wealth which appeals to everyone on the dole. Obamas economics are about his socialistic ideology, and the sooner people figure out he doesn't care about them and getting jobs, but about his ideology, maybe enough will see the light that America needs to get on a new track to expand the job market so investors will invest and small and large businesses will hire.
    Can't accomplish anything unless you get elected first and with 1/3 of the electorate on some form of assistance, that's a pretty big hill to overcome. I like most of what I hear Ryan say, (although not all of his recent voting record) but just because I like him doesn't mean he brings anything useful to the cause. My ticket of choice in a perfect world would probably have been Newt/Rice as they really seem to be the smartest folks around, but that would have been a loser ticket from the word go, so am willing to comprise and look at someone that could actually get elected, just don't se how Ryan helps with that.
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    If Obama can go from NOT supporting gay marriage to it being his platform anythings possible. If Obama can evolve others can as well.

    Ryan brings a plan to dig us out what does Obama bring Obamacare, more debt more taxes Obama has NOTHING to offer just the past 4 years All you have to do is look at Obamas record it speaks for itself. Ryan brings hope something obama promised but could not deliver.
    Maybe now Obama will have to speak instead of hiding behind dirty ads

    Today in a speech in NC Ryan stated that unemployment there is 9.4 % I didnt know that all I hear is Obama saying private sector is doing fine.... we may all be shocked when the truth finally starts coming out.
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    Haven't seen any polls recently of folks who voted for Obama last time. My guess is that most blacks will still vote for him as will all the Democrat base (including many in the jewish community and the "intellectual elite") and the "yella dog democrats" and much of the gay population and much of the hispanic population, and nearly every person on welfare and many who are on disability or medicare. You are hoping to win an election by appealing to the people who can understand the more complex issues and who will agree with the Republican's position on how to get us out of our current problems (and not everyone with the intellectual capability agrees with the Republicans' position). Well since, by definition, approximately half of the population is at or below average intelligence, and the aforementioned proposed solutions tend to be justified with some relatively involved math (which is for most folks the scariest subject), I think it is hoping for quite a bit to expect an economist to be able to sway a large enough proportion of the folks who need to be swayed. Ryan does, however make a very good "sound-bite target". I could write the ads in my sleep.

    Don't get me wrong, I think he's a very smart guy, he is very articulate, and I tend to agree with much of what he says, but I test on the right side of the bell curve, and can actually read. I have little confidence in the abilities of those folks who fall farther to the left.
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