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    Default Even in Pennsylvania, there's other news besides Penn State.

    With all the hullabaloo and poppycock coming from the MSP and their toady buddies in the BIGNET TV organizations, this is a story that makes my day.

    The “star witness” against Pennsylvania Voter ID just got herself an ID card

    By: John Hayward
    8/17/2012 01:35 AM

    Vote-fraud defenders have been using Viviette Applewhite, a 93-year old Pennsylvania woman whose birth certificate copies were destroyed in two separate house fires, as the “star witness” against Pennsylvania’s new Voter ID law. Her Social Security card was stolen a while ago, and she doesn’t have a drivers’ license. Without either birth certificate or SS card, this sweet old lady would be ruthlessly “disenfranchised,” because she couldn’t get one of the new photographic voter ID cards the state is handing out.

    Except… the day after a judge refused to issue a temporary injunction against the voter ID law, Applewhite hopped on a bus, went to the PennDOT center, and got herself an ID card. She apparently did this without consulting the vote-fraud defenders that have been using her as a prop in their legal battles. Now they’ll need a fire hose to clean the egg from their faces.

    The Philadephia Inquirer article reads like a horror story for voter ID opponents. The Pennsylvania law grants discretionary powers to Department of Transportation clerks, who are permitted to take the age of the applicant into consideration. Applewhite was not entirely without documentation – she had a 20-year old Medicare card with some illegible numbers, hand-written Department of Public Welfare documents, and some other material that verified her address. One of the biggest sticking points was that her last name had been changed through marriage.

    The clerk carefully looked over her paperwork, decided it was good enough, and issued her voter ID card. A delighted Applewhite rode the bus home with her pocketbook open in her lap, gazing fondly at her new ID card, while telling fellow passengers she was “happy as a clam.” When she got home, she gushed to a neighbor, “I didn’t fight for nothing. I fought and got my rights.” She wasn’t trying to shred the duly enacted laws of the state, as part of some huge political drama. She just wanted her voter ID.

    The defenders of vote fraud have been reduced to hysterical antics in the wake of Applewhite’s personal triumph. Penda Hair, co-director of something called the “Advancement Project,” sneered that “PennDot was flexible providing the ID without Mrs. Applewhite having the documents required by law. We wonder if that would be the case for someone who wasn’t a lead plaintiff in a lawsuit and the subject of a lot of attention in the press.” But the Inquirer sent a reporter along with Applewhite, and this observer “saw no sign that the clerk recognized her or realized she was a major figure in the battle over the law.”

    State ACLU director Witold Walczak’s warned there were “thousands of Ms. Applewhites out there who still don’t have ID. It would be nice if PennDOT relaxed the rules for all of them.” Oooga-booga! There are still monsters under the bed! Trust us!

    Walczak is as disingenuous as the defenders of vote fraud always are. As verified by the Inquirer’s observer, the state did not “relax” any rules for Applewhite. It followed the rules, which proved flexible enough to handle the most extreme hard case the ACLU could dig up.

    Actually, an even better ending for the story would have been issuing a new birth certificate to Applewhite, who said she has been trying unsuccessfully to obtain one for years. It has always been puzzling why these vast, well-funded “civil rights organizations” didn’t use their resources to help her, instead of using her as a puppet in the courtroom.

    Well, okay, it’s not “puzzling” at all. I was just being polite. Game, set, and match for voter ID.
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    so voters can get an ID card, but they may/may not be legitimate since any clerk at the DOT can "relax" the rules if/when they see fit.

    PennDot will be in trouble when Rosalita JiminezHernandez Leon goes in and wants the same treatment,

    uh-oh, profiling.
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    I read an article today that said she had been trying for many years to get an ID card and was denied. She was adopted as a young child and the only ID she had has different last names on it. The clerk relaxed the rules for her.

    The spin is interesting when reading the two different articles. I bolded the line in the article.


    By Jessica Parks

    The Philadelphia Inquirer

    PHILADELPHIA — The day after a judge upheld Pennsylvania's new voter-identification law, the lead plaintiff in the suit seeking to block the law went to a state Department of Transportation office and was issued the photo-ID card she needs to vote.

    Nothing has changed since Viviette Applewhite, 93, testified in July. The law stands. She still doesn't have a driver's license or Social Security card; the latter was stolen with her purse some years ago, she has said.

    The name on her birth certificate is still different from the name on her other documents — all of which, under the law, should have barred her from getting her photo ID.

    But Thursday, she got it anyway. "You just have to keep trying," said Applewhite, who uses an electric wheelchair. "Don't give up."

    State officials called it an unplanned exercise in what they've been saying for weeks: Clerks at Pennsylvania Department of Transportation centers can take age and other factors into consideration when granting exceptions to the list of documents the law requires, licensing-bureau director Janet Dolan said.

    Dolan could not explain why Applewhite had been rejected before.

    PennDOT's guidelines say a Social Security card is a must to get a photo ID, and a PennDOT employee answering the agency's voter-ID hotline said the card is required. Applewhite's lawyers said she has been attempting to obtain a PennDOT-issued ID card for years.

    Applewhite — who rode two buses to get to the center — showed the clerk a Medicare card from the 1990s, its edges frayed. It listed her Social Security number, but only the last seven digits were visible.

    A state Department of Public Welfare document showed her name, signature and Social Security number — but all in her own handwriting. Other documents showed her street address in the city's Germantown section. She had no documents verifying the Viviette Virene Brooks listed on her birth certificate was the same person as the Viviette Applewhite applying for an ID.

    A thrilled Applewhite returned to her apartment after about an hour at the PennDOT office and showed off her new ID. "I got it, Miss Cunningham," she told a neighbor. "I fought and got my rights."

    Knowing she will be able to vote Nov. 6 is a comfort: "I'll be able to ... go to sleep at night, not worry about this mess," she said.

    Material from The Associated Press is included in this report.
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