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    How many of these "cuts" would make it past the current oligarchy? Or for that matter, even past the current Senate?

    These are just some of the "cuts" that could be voted on, and if passed, wouldn't be vetoed. While I doubt this makes little sense to the "PRINCIPLED" among us. They think they can get these same cuts by just 'voting' for their ignored candidate and what he stands for. Are you so dense that you don't see what will happen by you throwing away your vote. It will be no different than if you decide to NOT vote...the outcome will be the same...but then, you won't be able to puff out your chest and continue your bloviating about your "principles". Hope that gets you the change you want. Sorry if some of us consider that as just hypocrosy.


    These are all the programs that the new Republican House has proposed cutting.

    * Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy -- $445 million annual savings.
    * Save America 's Treasures Program -- $25 million annual savings.
    * International Fund for Ireland -- $17 million annual savings.
    * Legal Services Corporation -- $420 million annual savings.
    * National Endowment for the Arts -- $167.5 million annual savings.
    * National Endowment for the Humanities -- $167.5 million annual savings.
    * Hope VI Program -- $250 million annual savings.
    * Amtrak Subsidies -- $1.565 billion annual savings.
    * Eliminate duplicating education programs -- H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
    * U.S. Trade Development Agency -- $55 million annual savings.
    * Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy -- $20 million annual savings.
    * Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding -- $47 million annual savings.
    * John C. Stennis Center Subsidy -- $430,000 annual savings.
    * Community Development Fund -- $4.5 billion annual savings.
    * Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid -- $24 million annual savings.
    * Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half -- $7.5 billion annual savings
    * Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20% -- $600 million annual savings.
    * Essential Air Service -- $150 million annual savings.
    * Technology Innovation Program -- $70 million annual savings.
    * Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program -- $125 million annual savings.
    * Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization -- $530 million annual savings.
    * Beach Replenishment -- $95 million annual savings.
    * New Starts Transit -- $2 billion annual savings.
    * Exchange Programs for Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts -- $9 million annual savings
    * Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants -- $2.5 billion annual savings.
    * Title X Family Planning -- $318 million annual savings.
    * Appalachian Regional Commission -- $76 million annual savings.
    * Economic Development Administration -- $293 million annual savings.
    * Programs under the National and Community Services Act -- $1.15 billion annual savings.
    * Applied Research at Department of Energy -- $1.27 billion annual savings.
    * Freedom CAR and Fuel Partnership -- $200 million annual savings.
    * Energy Star Program -- $52 million annual savings.
    * Economic Assistance to Egypt -- $250 million annually.
    * U.S. Agency for International Development -- $1.39 billion annual savings.
    * General Assistance to District of Columbia -- $210 million annual savings.
    * Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority -- $150 million annual savings.
    * Presidential Campaign Fund -- $775 million savings over ten years.
    * No funding for federal office space acquisition -- $864 million annual savings.
    * End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
    * Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act -- More than $1 billion annually.
    * IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget -- $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
    * Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees -- $1 billion total savings. WHAT THE HELL IS THISABOUT?
    * Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees -- $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
    * Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of -- $15 billion total savings.
    * Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.WHAT???
    * Eliminate Mohair Subsidies -- $1 million annual savings.
    * Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- $12.5 million annual savings WELL ISN'T THAT SPECIAL
    * Eliminate Market Access Program -- $200 million annual savings.
    * USDA Sugar Program -- $14 million annual savings.
    * Subsidy to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) -- $93 million annual savings.
    * Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program -- $56.2 million annual savings.
    * Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs -- $900 million savings.
    * Ready to Learn TV Program -- $27 million savings.. WHY?????
    * HUD Ph.D. Program.
    * Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
    * TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years

    My question is, what is all this crap doing in the budget in the first place?

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    Seems like a pretty easy answer to me, neither side wants to cut off the hand that feeds them, the republicans are more than happy to get rid of obvious wasteful spending to the left but don't want to touch the wasteful spending by the right. I noticed the big oil never got mentioned you would think that by now they could stand on there own. It's really sad that the two sides refuse to compromise on wasteful spending. At the least they should get together and eliminate the federal programs that don't help either side, perhaps a stand alone bill would be a nice change.
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    The two parties have been dysfunctional for some time now. That is the way the electorate likes it or they would change it!
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    While I have no intention to champion the W presidency when it comes to his spending, but lets review what happened, and when. Seems that many are still in the dark about how the Democrats were involved, and even the Libertarians are quick to just repeat the socialist mantra of all the problems being Bush's fault.

    Here's an old file that needs to be reviewed so those that are quickly swayed can have some facts to think about.


    Don’t just skim over this, read it slowly and let it sink in. If in doubt, check it out.

    The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007 the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

    The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:
    January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time:

    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
    The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
    The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
    George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH

    Remember the day...
    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.
    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?

    Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

    Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

    And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
    And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
    OBAMA and the Democrat Congress

    So when someone tries to blame Bush...
    Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

    Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 &2011.
    In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

    For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

    And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

    If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

    If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    The two parties have been dysfunctional for some time now. That is the way the electorate likes it or they would change it!
    would you rather have this option


    Sarah Palin said history could repeat itself and a third party could be created if Republicans don’t adhere to their principles, Fox News reported.

    When asked on Fox News if she would consider creating a third party, the former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee said, "If history is an indication it is a possibility. If the Republicans don't remember what the planks in the platform represent . . . That is opportunity to prosper and thrive in the most exceptional nation in the world.”

    She added that “we do that through a free market. If the Republicans become like the liberal left and Democrats, I wouldn't be surprised if history didn't repeat itself."

    Palin drew a comparison to the Whig Party, saying, "Look what happened in the mid 1800’s. The Whig party went away and the Republican Party surfaced,” she explained. “Because the electorate got sick and tired of the party fighting for power and not doing the will of the people."

    She described the tea party movement as a “grassroot of independent Americans. They know that they are taxed enough already. They want to shrink government and make it smarter and make it as less relevant to us in our lives as possible.”

    Palin will be in Gilbert, Ariz., on Monday to show support for Republican congressional hopeful Kirk Adams and to stump for incumbent GOP congressmen Jeff Flake and Paul Gosar, according to the Los Angeles Times.

    Read more on Newsmax.com: Palin Hints at Formation of Third Party
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