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    I think that all predators will freeze and stop a stalk. I think flash pointing is a useful term for the instinct pause during a stalk. I have had 6 goldens and all but one of them would point upland birds. Two of them would hold a point for 20 to 30 seconds. I had one that was returning with a quail and locked up in a point on a bobwhite in a small clump of grass. That one flushed and he turned fast to follow it. I shot it and he marked it down and turned back to look at me and I said, here. He then retrieved the bird he pointed. The same dog pointed wild turkeys for us in a CRP native field. All three of us shot pointed wild turkeys. We had walked into a group of about 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointing-goldens View Post
    The technique to activate the instinct is simple. You tie a pheasant wing or tail to a cord, you then swing it around and let your golden chase it. Eventually, when they don't catch it, they will come to a point. Then you just reinforce that behavior with repetition and praise.
    Chasing a wing on a string until a pup stops? That's a quit, not a point.

    And using wings and feathers that way teaches a dog to sight point, not scent point.

    Most any dog can be taught to stand game....that's easy. A true pointing dog will stop on first scent, rather than roading in until it is standing almost over a bird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Potter View Post
    Chasing a wing on a string until a pup stops? That's a quit, not a point.

    And using wings and feathers that way teaches a dog to sight point, not scent point.

    Most any dog can be taught to stand game....that's easy. A true pointing dog will stop on first scent, rather than roading in until it is standing almost over a bird.
    I think it was a joke/troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    I think it was a joke/troll.
    Dang....I've been punked???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Potter View Post
    Dang....I've been punked???
    Let's hope so. Better than the alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    Let's hope so. Better than the alternative.
    I shall remain guardedly optimistic.
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    Different breed but relevant, if my seven week old will point at the little stuffed duck i throw for him. Is it just puppy play or do I have a lab that will point? When he does it he'll hold it for a few seconds then pounce on the duck.

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    Most puppies will do that....it's play behavior but based on instinct, which can be developed into pointing rather than flushing. It all depends on what you want, shape and reward. However, it's sight pointing, which is different from scent pointing. You can teach a Chihuahua or a Great Dane or a Coonhound to point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swampcollie View Post
    Because of the breeds that went into creating the Golden Retriever, once in a while you'll get a dog that points. There really isn't any way to predict which dogs will point. (even from the same litter.)
    so, kinda like if it will swim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Potter View Post
    ....... You can teach a Coonhound to point.

    true, but they sing out BR-ROO BR-ROOOO BRAAA-ROOOOOO
    while they do it!
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