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    I will take a shot at it JDogger...BHO is closer to a Marxist, anti colonialism

    The following are not my words but sum up what I believe marxism to be...the words communism and socialism are thrown around and in many ways mis used, because more people are familiar with the term but don't really understand what they are really about

    Marxism shares with other progressive social movements an uncompromising hostility to all forms of domination sexism, racism, and so on, but what marks Marxism out from other progressive movements is that Marxists struggle always to overcome the manifold forms of domination and exploitation in and through the self-emancipation of the working class. Thus Marxism is Revolutionary Socialism.

    While Marxism stands for the destruction of the capitalist state, and has as its aim the withering away of the state and all forms of institutionalised violence, Marxists not only support the right of the working class to exercise a domination over the bourgeoisie, they actively fight for that, since the dictatorship of the proletariat is the possible way to destroy bourgeois rule and open the way to the disappearance of all classes, including the class of wage-slaves. Marxism has its origins in the struggle for this perspective, in opposition to anarchism which seeks to undermine all forms of authority and seeks destruction of the capitalist state without promoting and preparing the working class for the seizure and holding of public political power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    romney said the truth it shocks obamabots because they have never heard it. Some of us are sick of people that are able to work walking to their mailbox each day and think thats a hard days work. Get off the Govt get a job, as soon as Romney is Pres you will be able to find a job. He knows how to create them something Obama has failed to do in 4 yrs.
    I'm sure he did speak the truth...these 47% I don't care about

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    Bon, YOU have impressed me. You explained Marxism to a T, and showed the level of thought we need to be sharing here and in discussion everywhere to make a difference! Stop the condescending, mindless comments full off emotionally charged cliches, and together we MIGHT ​just make some progress!
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    Romney was right he would have an easier time taking a bone from a pack of pitbulls than trying to take Govt out of some of these peoples lives. Obama has made it very easy for them to be paid for doing nothing. Its all supposed to be temporary assistance, not last forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tall View Post
    Bon, YOU have impressed me. You explained Marxism to a T, and showed the level of thought we need to be sharing here and in discussion everywhere to make a difference! Stop the condescending, mindless comments full off emotionally charged cliches, and together we MIGHT ​just make some progress!

    You give me too much credit...the explanation of marxism was not mine...I just found what I believe to be the best explanation of it..I should have given the link where I found it

    As for the things that divide us, that wont be decided in this election alone, but I see it as a make or break proposition for the country as a whole...so if thats a condescending cliche I stand by that statement
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    No Bon, there is nothing cliched about believing in something. And you are not one of the folks I am talking about. I am repulsed by the name calling, racist attacks, and personal jibes under the heading of a political discussion. No more than that.

    And oh yeah, just shaking my head at the lack of education displayed here. Don't you think that might be a big part of the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tall View Post
    No Bon, there is nothing cliched about believing in something. And you are not one of the folks I am talking about. I am repulsed by the name calling, racist attacks, and personal jibes under the heading of a political discussion. No more than that.

    And oh yeah, just shaking my head at the lack of education displayed here. Don't you think that might be a big part of the problem?
    Just out of curiosity, am I one that displays a lack of education?

    I pointed out years ago that Obama was a Marxist, not a socialist.
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    Also, calling folks secular progressives is not name calling, it is fact.
    The "secular progressive party" (formerly the Democrats) BOO God!!!!!!

    What would you call them?

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    Lets get back on point....Romney doesn't care about you unless you are a rich guy....doesn't that concern you?

    This is the person you want to put in charge?

    Wouldn't you say he should keep these thoughts to himself?

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    What are you talking about. He said that there are 47% of the people that will vote for Obama no matter what, which is true. Just exactly who does Obama care about? He certainly did not care about ambassador Stevens and the others that were killed along with him.

    This is more crap to keep the true issues out of the news. Read the article I posted earlier. Or maybe we should see what this administartion is feeding media matters today for more deflection from Obama's dismal record for the last four yeras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    Lets get back on point....Romney doesn't care about you unless you are a rich guy....doesn't that concern you?

    Obama has his fair share of rich friends. In fact, Obama is also rich. In fact, Obama receives "foreign income" as well, according to his own published tax returns.

    This is the person you want to put in charge?

    Romney gives a higher percentage of his OWN money to charitable causes than either Obama and Biden.

    Wouldn't you say he should keep these thoughts to himself?

    Is this not an issue in our society today?
    You may have just missed this, Mike
    Romney was saying that he couldn't worry about getting those VOTES ... had nothing to do with not worrying about poor people.
    The D's make a practice of using scare tactics about Medicare and entitlement programs (school loans, health care, public assistance, subsidies of all kinds, etc.). Those who receive those benefits, if they believe the D's, will not vote for someone who might upset their applecart.
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