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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    I thought that this would promote discussion, but i guess the fact that there are no "good guys" is too radical an idea.-Paul
    Paul , you are one of a select liberal leaning guys whose views I will actually read and listen yo (e, almost equate you to what I know as a southern Democrat, you are not what I would call a progressive,and considering what state you come from that must be a real rarity...

    But the article is right, it is our fault for voting in the same morons, unfortunately most believe the morons are everyone EXCEPT the one in their state or district (except my state where I know Harry is an idiot)..the electorate is lazy, thats why its very difficult to beat the incumbent
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    A few things that I learned still ring true. "Lanse when you get a gift, say thank you and walk away. When you get a screwing walk away. You are going to get a lot more screwings than gifts"

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    I thought that this would promote discussion, but i guess the fact that there are no "good guys" is too radical an idea.-Paul
    There are very few good guys and barely a dime's difference between Democrats and Republicans today. The article is exactly right. The only thing is the we, the electorate, continue to let it happen due to wide spread apathy. Of those that vote, most vote the party they are comfortable with so they don't have to think or understand the issues. Honey Boo Boo and American Idol are more important to many people. That said, it is hard not to be apathetic when we elected Obama, and Romney is the best the Republicans can come up with.

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    This is exactly why there needs to be term limits on all offices, not just the president. A lot of our problems are the career politicians. Only let them serve x amount of terms and keep the blood fresh in DC. I think that would help a lot.

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    Limiting the authority of the federal government to those powers clearly stated in The Constitution and returning powers to the individual states would fix our mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    Limiting the authority of the federal government to those powers clearly stated in The Constitution and returning powers to the individual states would fix our mess.
    Would that make hunting regulations left up to the states instead of the Feds setting waterfowl seasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murral stark View Post
    Would that make hunting regulations left up to the states instead of the Feds setting waterfowl seasons?
    We could only hope, but as long as birds migrate (except those that hang out all year in one part of the state or another) the Feds will never give up their jurisdiction of the waterfowl season....However some states get more days than others, and some states (Calif and Idaho) get a seven bird limit where TX gets a six bird limit...AZ gets 3 dark geese but Idaho gets 4 so go figure...dont get me started on the Swan regulations
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    Charley Reese's Final Column
    Now this has been made so clear, now the blame lies on us that keep voting the same people into office.
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    A very interesting column.
    COMPLETELY NEUTRAL
    Charley Reese's final column for the Orlando Sentinel.
    He has been a journalist for 49 years.
    He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.
    This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be. The article below is completely neutral, neither anti-republican or democrat. Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinel, has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgments made that impact each one of us every day. It's a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

    Be sure to Read the Poem and the Tax List at the end.


    545 vs. 300,000,000 People
    -By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

    You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

    If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    What you do with this article now that you have read it... is up to you.
    This might be funny if it weren't so true.
    Be sure to read all the way to the end:

    Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table,
    At which he's fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for
    peanuts anyway!

    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax his car,
    Tax his gas,
    Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has
    Then let him know
    That you won't be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He's good and sore.

    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he's laid...

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    'Taxes drove me
    to my doom...'

    When he's gone,
    Do not relax,
    Its time to apply
    The inheritance tax.

    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Sales Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax


    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
    We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

    I hope this goes around THE USA at least 545 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!

    GO AHEAD. . . BE AN AMERICAN
    Great post. How can anyone argue that government is the solution? GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!!! Interesting that someone would term you as a liberal so I have a question for you. Do you think we need more government intervention or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murral stark View Post
    This is exactly why there needs to be term limits on all offices, not just the president. A lot of our problems are the career politicians. Only let them serve x amount of terms and keep the blood fresh in DC. I think that would help a lot.
    Ladies and gentlemen, here is the solution!!!

    Great post murral!!!!!
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    Cary,

    I don't think any reasonable person could make a case for bigger government. Therein lies the problem!

    The secondary problem is going about reducing the size of Government agencies and programs in a manner that will ensure the people are well served, and that is a HUGE task that demands non-partisan thinking by folks that are well versed in what those agencies and programs were created to do.

    So, the short answer is that i think we need less Government intervention in our lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murral stark View Post
    This is exactly why there needs to be term limits on all offices, not just the president. A lot of our problems are the career politicians. Only let them serve x amount of terms and keep the blood fresh in DC. I think that would help a lot.
    I agree 100%. MAXIMUM 2 terms for Senate and House. Further, 2 terms MAXIMUM in the legislative branch. Also, 10 years MAXIMUM as SCOTUS- no more appointments for life.-Paul
    there's no good reason to fatten up a retriever.

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