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    Default Gotta Give Tebow his due

    gonna eat some crow...Tebow is proving that he is a winner, his football may not be textbook, but the kid, check that he is now a man just wills his team to victory...

    so for all you Tebow fans that I may have offended, I will take my lumps and eat some crow and admit I was wrong about Tebow...

    He does it in a classy way too
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    Wish he had been crushed last night! My jets suck this year!
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    When Denver got the ball on the 5 I thought to myself they were done. Wrong! That was pretty amazing. I can't imagine him being able to keep this up but i sure didn't think he could go 95 yards either. WOW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by M&K's Retrievers View Post
    When Denver got the ball on the 5 I thought to myself they were done. Wrong! That was pretty amazing. I can't imagine him being able to keep this up but i sure didn't think he could go 95 yards either. WOW!
    Yeah both me and my father in law said the exact same thing as we were watching. Very interesting seeing them line up with an empty back field pretty much that whole drive.

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    I'm not sold yet. We'll see. You can't win long term with 100 yards passing a game in the NFL. 9 of 20 for 104 yards and no passing TD's just won't cut it.

    The jury is still out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowtown View Post
    You can't win long term with 100 yards passing a game in the NFL. 9 of 20 for 104 yards and no passing TD's just won't cut it.

    The jury is still out.
    I agree, but I don't think Tebow, Fox or Elway envision this as the long-term Denver offense. Tebow, for all intents and purposes is pretty much a rookie QB, Denver's offensive line is, to quote Bill Walton, "Horrrrrrrrrrible" and is a sack waiting to happen and their receivers ain't top notch, either. They're doing what they gotta do to win. It's working. For now.
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    He sure isn't what you imagine in an NFL QB. He's winning now. He's handling the criticism in a mature christian way.

    He seems like the kind of guy who will keep stumping the experts.

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    He's a great runner. Probably could be an all pro tight end. But as as passer, he sucks. I'm not sure he can even throw an interception.
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    The secrete to ball control offense is 3.5 yrds per down.

    It doesnt matter wether you throw, or run.
    It doesnt matter WHO throws or runs. Just advance the ball 3.5 yrds.
    Pretty basic,, and is what all these Pros have been taught since Pop Warner.

    You drive the lenght of the field,, and score,, the other teams offense stays on the bench .You eat clock , score points and ALWAYS have a well rested defense.

    BASIC FUNDAMENTAL FOOTBALLL.

    And the guys that have the TALENT to make that happen is the big guys up front..... Not them "Glory Boys" that are designated with terms of
    1/4 ... or 1/2 .... You need "Big Boys" up front,,, and "FULL" backs!

    We all watched Tebow run over a pretty hard hittin defensive back,, instead of running out of bounds,, or "sliding"

    Tebow Aint no 1/4 back... Hes a "Full Back" at least in mindset!

    interesting to to watch!! especially since all the experts say.. this type of football would never win in the Pro game.

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    There was a discussion on our local Bronco coverage radio sation the other afternoo, asking the question What Past Nfl quarterback would Tebow compare to?

    There were many different answers that were interesting,, but the commentators of the show really didnt think anyone really compares to him. They felt he is a very unique player in a position he doesnt belong!

    I whole heartly dis agree.

    I wanted to call the station and give my comparison.
    Tebow reminds me very much of this guy. However,, I think Tebow is Much more talented.

    Billy Kilmer:

    William Orland Kilmer, Jr. (born September 5, 1939 in Topeka, Kansas) was an American footballquarterback in the National Football League for the San Francisco 49ers, the New Orleans Saints and the Washington Redskins. He played college football for the UCLABruins.




    Early life

    College career

    Kilmer competed in football for one year at Citrus Junior College where he scored six touchdowns and threw for 15 more, with a broken foot limiting his playing time for the Citrus basketball team. He then went on to play three seasons at UCLA, closing out his career with an outstanding season in 1960 that helped him finish fifth in voting for the Heisman Trophy. During that stellar campaign, he threw for over 1,000 yards, ran for over 800, scored eight touchdowns and served as the team's punter. Kilmer was also awarded the 1960 W.J. Voit Memorial Trophy as the outstanding football player on the Pacific Coast.
    After the conclusion of a UCLA career that saw him finish among the top five in school history for passing and rushing yards, as well as total offense, Kilmer played in the 1961 College All-Star Game, where he earned Most Valuable Player honors.
    Professional career

    San Francisco 49ers

    Kilmer was drafted in the first round (eleventh overall) of the 1961 NFL Draft by the 49ers. He was also selected in the fifth round of the 1961 AFL Draft by the San Diego Chargers, but signed with San Francisco on December 30, 1960. During that rookie season, he saw action primarily at running back, rushing for 509 yards and ten touchdowns, with his top performance coming against the expansion Minnesota Vikings on October 15 when he rushed for four touchdowns.
    The following year, Kilmer's season came to an early end following a December 5 auto accident in which he fell asleep in his 1957 Chevrolet and drove off the Bayshore Freeway into the San Francisco Bay. Suffering a fractured leg, Kilmer's injury was bad enough to also force him to sit out the entire 1963 NFL season. He was able to return the following year, but his production was limited. After he saw no action in 1965 and was involved in a training camp contract dispute the next season, he was placed in the 1967 NFL Expansion Draft.
    New Orleans Saints

    On February 10, 1967, Kilmer was selected in the expansion draft by the New Orleans Saints and, despite originally being thought of as the team's third-best signal caller, became the team's starting quarterback for much of the next four seasons, although he shared time with Edd Hargett during his final two seasons. His most prolific performance during his four-year stint with the team came on November 2, 1969, when he threw for 345 yards and six touchdowns in a 51-42 win over the St. Louis Cardinals.
    Frustrated after four years of the Saints' futility and sensing New Orleans would draft Ole Miss star Archie Manning with the second overall pick of the 1971 NFL Draft, Kilmer asked to be traded and was granted his wish on January 23, 1971, when he was traded to the Washington Redskins for linebacker Tom Roussel and two draft selections.
    Washington Redskins

    As the first trade during the George Allen era in Washington, Kilmer was destined for a reserve role behind future Hall of FamerSonny Jurgensen.
    That status changed on September 4 when Jurgensen suffered a severe shoulder injury against the Miami Dolphins. Kilmer then led the resurgent Redskins to a 5-0 start, but a midseason slump cost them the opportunity to win the National Football Conference Eastern Division. Kilmer briefly lost his starting job as a result of the slide, but regained it after Jurgensen again injured his shoulder. Fans in Washington tended to be loyal to one quarterback or the other, sporting buttons at games that read "I like Billy" or "I like Sonny." Kilmer did not throw the tight spiral that Jurgensen did, but his wobbly passes often got the job done.
    One year later, Kilmer led the Redskins to an NFC-best 11-3 record, while also leading the NFL in touchdown passes (19) and passer rating (84.8). After the season, Washington advanced to their first Super Bowl, which they lost, 14-7, to the unbeaten Miami Dolphins (16-0). The loss didn't dampen Kilmer's individual recognition as he was named to the Pro Bowl and the All-NFC Team.
    Kilmer finished his 16-year NFL career with 1,585 of 2,984 completions for 20,495 yards and 154 touchdowns, with 146 interceptions. He also rushed for 1,509 yards and 21 touchdowns, caught 27 passes for 288 yards and one touchdown, and punted the ball 16 times for 598 yards.

    Notice in Kilmers college career,, he RAN for over 800 yrds His passes were never spiral perfect,, but seemed to "get the job done"

    I think Tebow will be a very special player in the league.
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