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    Default And you want to ridcule Romney for no foreign policy?

    How's the messiah's policies on the foreign front meeting your approval? And please stop telling me how it all was corrupted by others...what are we looking forward to? What's past is water over the dam...we can ONLY deal with what's ahead?

    Of course we don't know what Romney's proposals are, but I'd far rather trust his advisors than the Apologist-in-Chief, to get something resolved before it moves onto main street USA.

    As to your crying 'foul' for our blame of Obama...he and his henchmen are the ones making the decisions. Who else do we hold accountable? Of course the MSP are as much to blame, but we can't vote them out yet. But they are doing a pretty good job of becoming irrelevant on their own, so that won't take all that long for them to go under.

    This following view of what's happening in the ME, and the true cause of it, fits my views far better than what the MSP and this oligarchy came up with.

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    The collapse of the Obama strategy against radical Islamists


    By: Newt Gingrich



    The real meaning of the violence of the last week across the Muslim world is the bankruptcy and collapse of the Obama strategy which began with his speech in Cairo. President Obama had a deep conviction that pandering to Islamic sympathies, identifying with the virtues of Islam and parroting phrases that sounded good would lead to a deeper acceptance of the United States by Muslims.

    While reaching out to “mainstream Muslims,” the Obama strategy would wage selective war against designated enemies. The Obama administration decided to ignore concerns of sovereignty and to kill terrorists with stepped up drone attacks.

    It apparently did not occur to the Obama team that the enemy could and would react.

    The killing of the American ambassador to Libya was apparently a direct retaliation for the American killing in Pakistan of a Libyan senior al Qaeda commander. The Obama administration has desperately sought to spin all the violence as caused by one hostile anti-Muslim movie.

    Once again Obama and the elite media blame America for the hostility of others. In their ideology it is much safer for America to be the bad guys. Then we can excuse the violence, the attack on embassies, the burning of the American flag, the destruction of American businesses and American schools. In the Obama-elite media worldview that is all somehow the result of American provocation.

    “If only some American hadn’t made a bad movie, everything would be ok,” is the view the Obama administration and the elite media has exuded.

    There are three things profoundly wrong with this analysis.
    1. The Libyans reject it as a matter of fact.
    2. It confuses excuse with cause.
    3. It suggests a solution which would subordinate American civilization to Islamic supremacists.

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    , al Qaeda has asserted the attack on the American ambassador to Libya was a revenge killing. Senior Libyan officials have rejected the idea that the Benghazi violence was caused by the anti-Muslim film. They see no relationship between the Egyptian riots against the film and the team of killers who tracked down Ambassador Chris Stevens.

    The Obama administration is desperate to avoid linkage between predator strikes in Pakistan and the deliberate revenge killing in Benghazi. That would undermine all their assertions about the collapse of al Qaeda. It would bring into doubt their claims for an Arab Spring democracy movement. If this is an act of war, as I asserted last week in Politico, then all the Obama and media assertions about “senseless violence” begin to look as shallow, silly and self-deceiving as they are.

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    , the last week of violence stretching from London to Australia is a signal about the depth of anti-American and anti-Western passion among radical Islamists.

    The silly anti-Muslim film was an excuse for violence not the cause of it. It joins the Danish cartoon incident as another example of the deliberate use of Western freedom as an excuse for violence.

    The Iranian announcement that they had increased the bounty for killing Salman Rushdie for his novels was one more piece of this violence against any challenge to Islamic supremacy.

    We have to be clear that the real problem is not the movie but the hatred, the bigotry, the mass hysteria of religious fanatics who see their values threatened by modernity and are in a desperate fight to impose their values on the world.

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    , the very dangerous game the Obama administration and the elite media are playing in suggesting that we censor American words and American art in order to appease Muslim religious fanatics has to be directly challenged.

    As a Christian, these same left wing media elites have lectured me for years about the authenticity of “art” involving Christ immersed in urine or Mary smeared with elephant dung. We have been told again and again that we have to put blasphemous speech and obscenely offensive items in taxpayer funded museums.

    Now these same left wingers are explaining that it is OK to censor in order to appease Muslims. The White House is begging Google to remove the video from YouTube.

    No American should tolerate this hypocritical double standard.
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    By Newt Gingrich? Really Newt the poster child for the moral corrupt is going to lecture anyone on Christianity. Couldn't you find someone with a little more integrity, was Howard Stern not available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    By Newt Gingrich? Really Newt the poster child for the moral corrupt is going to lecture anyone on Christianity. Couldn't you find someone with a little more integrity, was Howard Stern not available?
    This your attempt at refuting the substance of the article?

    This administration is a total dismal failure on all fronts, and the leftists supported by the MSM would rather attack and ridicule the opposition instead of reporting the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Magic View Post
    This your attempt at refuting the substance of the article?

    This administration is a total dismal failure on all fronts, and the leftists supported by the MSM would rather attack and ridicule the opposition instead of reporting the truth.

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    Yes, I was shooting the messenger, its funny that anyone would bow down to Newt, or Ted Kennedy for that matter of all people to preach about Christianity. Now as far as the substance of the article, I find it lacking in some regards, Newt notes the "hypocritical double standard" yet that title fits Newt very well.

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    Whereas you might not choose Newt to be a moral example for your children to emulate, he is a smart, learned, and articulate historian. I believe that he is very qualified to comment on world affairs, probably much more so than the organizer and chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post
    Whereas you might not choose Newt to be a moral example for your children to emulate, he is a smart, learned, and articulate historian. I believe that he is very qualified to comment on world affairs, probably much more so than the organizer and chief.
    I think Newt has more experience with world affairs than Romney. I personally think he would've been a more well rounded candidate than Romney and has a proven record of working with the opposite party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murral stark View Post
    I think Newt has more experience with world affairs than Romney. I personally think he would've been a more well rounded candidate than Romney and has a proven record of working with the opposite party?
    I like Newt a lot, but....... he really does have quite a bit of baggage. I think it would be great fun to spend a day or a week or even a month. He brings so much historical perspective to the topics on which he most often speaks and is just Machiavellian enough to be really really interesting. I also think he would have mopped the floor with Obama in a debate, but it would have made little or no difference to most Obama supporters (too much of a cult). Of course, I also think it would be great fun to spend time with George Bush at the ranch, and wouldn't mind spending time with Bush and Gingrich together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPL View Post
    I like Newt a lot, but....... he really does have quite a bit of baggage. I think it would be great fun to spend a day or a week or even a month. He brings so much historical perspective to the topics on which he most often speaks and is just Machiavellian enough to be really really interesting. I also think he would have mopped the floor with Obama in a debate, but it would have made little or no difference to most Obama supporters (too much of a cult). Of course, I also think it would be great fun to spend time with George Bush at the ranch, and wouldn't mind spending time with Bush and Gingrich together.
    As long as we weren't hunting and Cheney was in the party. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by murral stark View Post
    As long as we weren't hunting and Cheney was in the party. LOL
    Oh, I'd hunt with Dick, he would just have to be out front.
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    That's funny right there. Just to be sure, might slip him some poppers instead of real shells.

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