Rowdy (by Pirate) Improvements

[Wayne Nutt]

Breck gave me some constructive comments of my run on this setup last Friday. We made some improvements but I still messed up some things:
Looking up at zinger on second mark
Not getting as square as I should have to the first zinger
And several others

But there was some positive.
Coming to heel and holding the dummy.

Somethings I tried that didn't work yet. Having him hold the dummy until just before launch on the second mark. He dropped it just as I hit the buzzer. I couldn't bend over and pick it up but kicked it behind me. This caused some confusion on him coming to heel the second time. But in a second run he was steady.

So, I didn't get all of Brecks comments accomplished but I did see some improvement. I appreciate his comments.
Going to go and start ff now.

[2tall]

Wayne, it may be just the view from the camera, but it looked like the second mark was thrown "in", towards pup. I have always been told to have the throws at least flat from the gunner, or better "back" so the pup has to run past the gun. Was this intentional, and if so why? Check down? Kind of surprises me for young pup, but I'm always willing to learn.

[Wayne Nutt]

2tall, It was intended to be flat but the wind caught it and blew it in.

[Wayne Nutt]

Rowdy was six months old on Sunday.

[Howard N]

Wayne, What about that creeping on the 2nd bird? I wouldn't allow that, steady is steady. Once I teach steady, I require steady. A little creep like that can lead to bigger ones in tests and trials. I would correct as soon as I saw his front feet moving.

[Wayne Nutt]

Howard, You're right. I missed an opportunity for a correction.

[Matthew J. Ries]

Good looking drill Wayne, how did you teach the return to heel? Somewhere between fun bumpers and focusing on obedience & FF my same aged pup has terrible manners upon arrival. I am thinking of going back to a checkcord and reel her into desired finished position, thoughts?

[Wayne Nutt]

Howard, The reason I missed the correction is because I was looking at the winger not the dog. I reran the setup and he was better. I was ready for a creep but it didn't happen.



I did get a front foot movment but his butt remained firmly in place. What do you think, should I have quirked him on the front foot movement?

We worked Saturday on drills on coming to heel on a mat with a check cord at first.

[Breck]

Wayne, what an improvement over the video from thur or fri. Very good.
Anyone following this thread if you review the vid from the other day vs today you will get an idea what I asked Wayne to work on in my PM.
Great improvement in handling. The little movement forward by the dog is minor. No stick. Try a low bump on the e-collar saying heel softly and see if he moves back just with that. Actually, transition away from using the stick and use pinch collar with a bit more finesse. more on that later.

Wayne, one additional thing I would have you do differently is how you take the bumper from the dog. The key word here is Take when it should be Give.
Taking the bumper from the dogs right or closest to you as well as pulling bumper up and out of dogs mouth will cause several problems.
One, you want the dog looking out into the field and never up at you and two you can cause mouthing issues.
Simple solution is to ask the dog to Give you the bumper vs taking it from him.
After dog comes to heel and settles into a sit, reach over dogs head with left hand and take hold of bumper (rope preferably). Just hold it and do nothing. Hold hand still and ask dog to give. Bumper should fall out of dogs mouth and if you're holding rope it will swing towards the ground like a pendulum.
Lots of reasons this is a good way to take delivery of the bird.
cheers

PS
Good job handling the dog this time. While fiddling with the remote try not to get stick in dogs view.

[Charles C.]

Wayne, it may be just the view from the camera, but it looked like the second mark was thrown "in", towards pup. I have always been told to have the throws at least flat from the gunner, or better "back" so the pup has to run past the gun. Was this intentional, and if so why? Check down? Kind of surprises me for young pup, but I'm always willing to learn.

Throwing predominantly angled back throws is a good way to teach a dog to run at the gun and blow through the fall area.