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Thread: Longtime Republicans torn between party loyalty and Obamacare

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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    They have been changing the medicare and medicade payment structure for years and doctors and hospitals still play. Everytime they say they won't but they do. This is just the first time you have noticed since the republicans are trying to scare old folks into thinking that they can not get medicare. The vouchers is kind of like GW plan to privatize SS...It will fail people.

    As for the penalty. Don't you think if folks play this game you are talking about that they will increase the penalty? duh
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    Quote Originally Posted by PamK View Post
    How about from Harvard:
    Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis.
    Overall, researchers said American adults age 64 and younger who lack health insurance have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those who have coverage.
    I asked you previously if you could find even ONE person who had died as a result of a doctor or hospital refusing to treat a patient, dying, as a result of not having insurance. Given you cited 45,000/year, surely you could find at least ONE instance, but evidently you could not.

    Now then could you tell me your opinion of those who would put forth such nonsense. Do you still believe their lies or do you just want to propagate their lies?

    The question should not be too hard to answer if you are willing to tell the truth.

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