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    Interesting analysis by Ed Klein in The Daily Caller dated today. He writes that his source (in the Clinton circle) indicates Clintons found cables from Hillary ordering increase in security at Benghazi, but her instructions were not followed. The piece implies that someone in the WH dropped the ball on the instructions being implemented. He suggests that if this information comes out (or is leaked), it will place responsibility firmly in the WH for this failure.

    That might save Hillary to campaign another day ... but not so good for Obama. Maybe Obama also knew about these cables, and that made him offer some responsibility in advance (at the 2nd debate)? Then, later, he can say that he always took full responsibility.

    These are two (three, if you count Bill guiding Hillary's actions) very sly politicians, very experienced in finest CYA. Did anyone really think Bill and Hillary would ever forgive their treatment at the hands of Obama and his group? Right from snatching the nomination in 2008 through to lack of personal contact since Obama moved into the WH.

    Funny how things unfold, isn't it? If Hillary had been nominated and won in 2008, with Bill's cagey assistance, she might have come through 4 years looking competent enough to get a second term. With the Obama debacle unfolding more each day, a win now for Romney might still give the needed time to stop the bus from going over the cliff.
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    JUST A BUMP IN THE ROAD! Almost immediately after pool reports indicated that President Barack Obama called the deaths of U.S. Ambassador ChrisSteven and three other Americans in Benghazi “not optimal” during the taping of “The Daily Show,” social media exploded with outrage over the president’s remarks.
    The backlash was almost instantaneous — and it was brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    We have NO leadership thats why we were hit on 9/11 The whole group is a bunch of buffoons
    So you are saying that the attack on us on 9/11 was due to "NO leadership"

    Would you go so far as to say that Pres Bush and his "bunch of buffoons" should be prosecuted for their "NO leadership" that resulted in the great tradgedy and huge loss of American lives in the 9/11 attack

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    Quote Originally Posted by smillerdvm View Post
    So you are saying that the attack on us on 9/11 was due to "NO leadership"

    Would you go so far as to say that Pres Bush and his "bunch of buffoons" should be prosecuted for their "NO leadership" that resulted in the great tradgedy and huge loss of American lives in the 9/11 attack

    Imagine this, Russ. A fellow veterinarian wanting to make a case that 9-11 is comparable to:

    Obama not even aware that he just 'might' have made too big a deal about HIS killing of Osama...

    Obama not even aware of how the jihadists like to blow things up on anniversaries of 9-11...

    Obama too busy campaigning to consider he's responsible for the protection at the various U.S. embassies in the Islam world...

    And of course, after 9-11, Bush used a home-brewed movie as his excuse for what happened...

    Comparing apples to oranges may be your way of excusing your messiah, smillerDVM. But only a complete sycophant continues to place his head where the sun don't shine, so he can avoid having to accept the fact that what he voted to put in the White House in '08, was a total inept fiasco.

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    I don't particularly hold President Obama responsible for the weak security at a just recently opened consulate. Good lord. There are so many issues bigger than that such that no one person can have a running memory of them all. That said, he is clearly responsible for the lack of an affirmative response and for the absence of an immediate and credible investigation as to what went wrong and how this can be avoided in the future.

    How lucky we all are that the same group didn't try this again within the past month because the Obama administration doesn't seem to know yet how it could have been avoided.
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    A boss is supposed to know what his people are doing & he is the one Responsible. He said he was he's the BOSS! Hillary works for him he should have gone to the DAILY Intel meetings they were more important than Whoopie and Joy! Just saying Im sorry isnt good enough when you stand in front of America the friends, familys, of those 4 dead Americans and blame a you tube video. Hillary should step down NOW and Obama should follow.
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    Here's more....

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121019/DA20G2701.html

    Oct 19, 3:28 AM (ET)
    By KIMBERLY DOZIER

    WASHINGTON (AP) - The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

    It is unclear who, if anyone, saw the cable outside the CIA at that point and how high up in the agency the information went. The Obama administration maintained publicly for a week that the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was a result of the mobs that staged less-deadly protests across the Muslim world around the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks on the U.S.

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    This obfuscation by the regime will eventually turn into a bigger fiasco than Watergate was. Only taking longer because the MSP is so beholding to the phoney they put in the White House. But even some of them are beginning to realize their future professionalism is on the line, and they have had enough.

    This is just now starting to become far bigger than the Eric Holder cover-up, because even the most toady journalists are getting fed up carrying the water for this empty suit. When more of the cover-up of the Benghazi raid unfolds, a lot more of the MSP will start reporting the facts like a national press should.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    .................................................. ........................When more of the cover-up of the Benghazi raid unfolds, a lot more of the MSP will start reporting the facts like a national press should.
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    More on the topic. As this continues to snowball, there are bound to be some MSP journalists that will find enough to get the facts correct and start telling the proletariat what really happened, and how their messiah covered up the truth with that phoney video concoction.

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    Rumsfeld: Blame for Benghazi 'Does Stop' With Obama
     
    By Greg McDonald
     
    Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's claim Monday of responsibility for the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, saying blame for the security failure in Libya "does stop" with President Barack Obama.
    "It does stop with the president, which she is not," Rumsfeld told Fox News' Sean Hannity Monday night. "On the other hand, the buck with respect to providing security is certainly within her area of responsibility, and it was a failure."

    Rumsfeld was referring to Clinton's statement in which she claimed "responsibility" for the failure to defend against the assault that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

    "I want to avoid some kind of political gotcha," Clinton told reporters, referring to efforts by Republicans and the Mitt Romney campaign to undermine the president's re-election effort with charges of a cover-up.

    Rumsfeld said Clinton's statement that the blame should go no further than her office does not dismiss "responsibility for the way the White House has tried to cover this up and to manage it in a way that suggested that at first . . . it was a YouTube [video], that it was not anything to do with 9/11, that it was not anything to do with a planned attack with heavy weapons.

    "I think the responsibility for that, as well as the responsibility for the secretary of state not providing appropriate security, does, in fact, fall to the president," he added.

    Rumsfeld said the security failure in Benghazi was indicative of what he described as other failures of administration foreign policy, ranging from unfinished trade agreements with Latin American countries to the lack of a status of forces agreement with Iraq.
    Rumsfeld also said it was just "not believable" that there was so much confusion between the State Department, the National Security Council, and intelligence community about what happened in Benghazi.

    But he added "it is probably credible that the president may not have known, at least for a period of day or so, because he went off to Nevada for a campaign fundraiser" right after the attack.
     
    "Can you imagine?" Rumsfeld asked, saying the president's decision to continue with his campaigning rather than focusing immediately on responding to the attack "suggests that that was his priority."

    "He, obviously, was dismissive of the fact that four Americans had been killed and we'd seen what obviously was a terrorist attack," Rumsfeld said.
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