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Thread: Security at the Libyan Embassy in Benghazi

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    I don't particularly hold President Obama responsible for the weak security at a just recently opened consulate. Good lord. There are so many issues bigger than that such that no one person can have a running memory of them all. That said, he is clearly responsible for the lack of an affirmative response and for the absence of an immediate and credible investigation as to what went wrong and how this can be avoided in the future.

    How lucky we all are that the same group didn't try this again within the past month because the Obama administration doesn't seem to know yet how it could have been avoided.
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    Here's more....

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121019/DA20G2701.html

    Oct 19, 3:28 AM (ET)
    By KIMBERLY DOZIER

    WASHINGTON (AP) - The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month's deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam's Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.

    It is unclear who, if anyone, saw the cable outside the CIA at that point and how high up in the agency the information went. The Obama administration maintained publicly for a week that the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was a result of the mobs that staged less-deadly protests across the Muslim world around the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks on the U.S.

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    This obfuscation by the regime will eventually turn into a bigger fiasco than Watergate was. Only taking longer because the MSP is so beholding to the phoney they put in the White House. But even some of them are beginning to realize their future professionalism is on the line, and they have had enough.

    This is just now starting to become far bigger than the Eric Holder cover-up, because even the most toady journalists are getting fed up carrying the water for this empty suit. When more of the cover-up of the Benghazi raid unfolds, a lot more of the MSP will start reporting the facts like a national press should.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    .................................................. ........................When more of the cover-up of the Benghazi raid unfolds, a lot more of the MSP will start reporting the facts like a national press should.
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    More on the topic. As this continues to snowball, there are bound to be some MSP journalists that will find enough to get the facts correct and start telling the proletariat what really happened, and how their messiah covered up the truth with that phoney video concoction.

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    Rumsfeld: Blame for Benghazi 'Does Stop' With Obama
     
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    Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's claim Monday of responsibility for the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, saying blame for the security failure in Libya "does stop" with President Barack Obama.
    "It does stop with the president, which she is not," Rumsfeld told Fox News' Sean Hannity Monday night. "On the other hand, the buck with respect to providing security is certainly within her area of responsibility, and it was a failure."

    Rumsfeld was referring to Clinton's statement in which she claimed "responsibility" for the failure to defend against the assault that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

    "I want to avoid some kind of political gotcha," Clinton told reporters, referring to efforts by Republicans and the Mitt Romney campaign to undermine the president's re-election effort with charges of a cover-up.

    Rumsfeld said Clinton's statement that the blame should go no further than her office does not dismiss "responsibility for the way the White House has tried to cover this up and to manage it in a way that suggested that at first . . . it was a YouTube [video], that it was not anything to do with 9/11, that it was not anything to do with a planned attack with heavy weapons.

    "I think the responsibility for that, as well as the responsibility for the secretary of state not providing appropriate security, does, in fact, fall to the president," he added.

    Rumsfeld said the security failure in Benghazi was indicative of what he described as other failures of administration foreign policy, ranging from unfinished trade agreements with Latin American countries to the lack of a status of forces agreement with Iraq.
    Rumsfeld also said it was just "not believable" that there was so much confusion between the State Department, the National Security Council, and intelligence community about what happened in Benghazi.

    But he added "it is probably credible that the president may not have known, at least for a period of day or so, because he went off to Nevada for a campaign fundraiser" right after the attack.
     
    "Can you imagine?" Rumsfeld asked, saying the president's decision to continue with his campaigning rather than focusing immediately on responding to the attack "suggests that that was his priority."

    "He, obviously, was dismissive of the fact that four Americans had been killed and we'd seen what obviously was a terrorist attack," Rumsfeld said.
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    A piece on American Thinker points to the fact that Valerie Jarrett, an WH staff member has a Secret Service contingent of SIX around the clock, that follow her shopping, hobnobbing around DC, and even on vacation. Even cabinet members do not get six SS fellas protecting them.

    Yet the ambassador to Libya, during a chaotic, dangerous transition period, got only TWO security personnel, and even those two seemed to have gone AWOL when the chips were down.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...k-sources-say/

    This is shocking. Raises a couple of questions in my mind. The first one being that if Fox can get this detailed information on what occurred that night, how could the administration have been so uninformed? If help was so nearby, how could anyone refuse to allow the help to civilian personnel?

    By this time, the administration should know as much as Fox about these details. It's no wonder the investigation will not be complete until after the election. If Obama is re-elected, will all the details ever come out ... or will executive privilege take care of that?

    Good thing these fellas were not managing D-Day. We'd all be speaking German now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...k-sources-say/

    This is shocking. Raises a couple of questions in my mind. The first one being that if Fox can get this detailed information on what occurred that night, how could the administration have been so uninformed? If help was so nearby, how could anyone refuse to allow the help to civilian personnel?

    By this time, the administration should know as much as Fox about these details. It's no wonder the investigation will not be complete until after the election. If Obama is re-elected, will all the details ever come out ... or will executive privilege take care of that?

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    whoever told Woods and Daugherty to stand down, had better get their affairs in order, because their blood is on his/her hands...In military terms whoever gave that order is about to face a general court martial, not just get their butt reamed in the court of public opinion
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    Just when you think that this whole thing could not be more reprehensible ... it does.

    Sure made it sound like it was Panetta who was in the situation room pulling the strings.

    Interesting, too, how Hillary told one of the SEAL's dad that they would arrest and prosecute ... the person who made the offensive video! As for Joe Biden, his comment to the father is beyond stupid and boorish. If I lived in Delaware, I think I'd have to move, I'd be so ashamed of him. Wonder how he would react if it was his son's death that was being taken so lightly?
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