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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogger View Post
    First, be accurate. It is not the Geneva convention it is; Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.
    I have some time now to respond to you. I do not, unlike most here play on the internet at work, and I find my phone to be an imperfect platform.
    I did not copy and paste anything ala Bill S. I suggested that you inform yourself via google and then provided a link to a blog that the author made an arguement regarding soverignty of embassies and consulates, and provided substantiating links. Draw your own conclusions. As you previously stated we "are free to disagree". I seek to change no one's view.
    Has there been a "cover-up" on the events in Benghazi...I do not believe so. My opinion...and my opinion only. no one except those that were there knows what happened that night. Not me, not you, not Fox, nor anyone posting on the internet.
    As to former Navy Seals...they were just that...former seals acting as hired security in a dangerous capicity, once a seal always a seal...sure...but they were not under orders of the Commander-in-Chief
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I think both stories are a bunch of crap!

    You need to stop the selective reading! I said early on this thread that I hold the administration responsible for security.

    Blaming it on a video was garbage and so is the exclusive Fox Report!
    I asked you that question several times, all I got was the Louisiana 2 step.
    If the Whitehouse had ANY information, classified or otherwise, that exonerated Obama in this, it would be leaked!!!
    That's all the people need to know...............

    I don't know why you guys are debating this with Franco, smillerdvm has declared "Game, Set & Match Franco."

    BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Like I said earlier, to the progressives, it isn't news until Dan Rather, Rachel, Chris, Whoopi, Joy and John Stewart say it is!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    I asked you that question several times, all I got was the Louisiana 2 step.
    If the Whitehouse had ANY information, classified or otherwise, that exonerated Obama in this, it would be leaked!!!
    That's all the people need to know...............

    I don't know why you guys are debating this with Franco, smillerdvm has declared "Game, Set & Match Franco."

    BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Like I said earlier, to the progressives, it isn't news until Dan Rather, Rachel, Chris, Whoopi, Joy and John Stewart say it is!!
    You reading comprehension has gone to pot!

    You were the one trying to change the subject from the bogus Fox report to the video.

    I said all along that the video excuse was a joke.

    Then, the subject became the Fox story which you were defending. When you realized that there was a very high probablity that it was bogus, you switched your arguement back to the video!

    Yes, game, set, match!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    You reading comprehension has gone to pot!

    You were the one trying to change the subject from the bogus Fox report to the video.

    I said all along that the video excuse was a joke.

    Then, the subject became the Fox story which you were defending. When you realized that there was a very high probablity that it was bogus, you switched your arguement back to the video!

    Yes, game, set, match!
    You funny............

    For the record, I think Fox has nailed it!!!
    Someone messed up bad, at a very high level, maybe the highest.
    If they had proof Obama was clean, it would be leaked!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    You funny............

    For the record, I think Fox has nailed it!!!
    Someone messed up bad, at a very high level, maybe the highest.
    If they had proof Obama was clean, it would be leaked!!!!!
    I've never said that the administration was clean.

    However, when a 4 Star General, NSC, White House, The Pentagon and CIA all deny giving orders to "stand down", it's pretty clear that the Fox report is bogus!
    I am tired of letting Republicans and Tea Party supporters co-opt the term "conservative". Republicans are not conservatives... they are radical fundamentalists and we should be referring to them as such....Libertarian blogger



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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I've never said that the administration was clean.

    However, when a 4 Star General, NSC, White House, The Pentagon and CIA all deny giving orders to "stand down", it's pretty clear that the Fox report is bogus!
    They all work for Obama, what else are they gonna say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I've never said that the administration was clean.

    However, when a 4 Star General, NSC, White House, The Pentagon and CIA all deny giving orders to "stand down", it's pretty clear that the Fox report is bogus!

    Maybe they dont have to give an order to stand down. I"m not Military, but maybe the DEFAULT rule of engagement was, "You guys move on our order,, and not 1 second sooner"

    Ambassador requested extra security BEFORE the attack,, People in charge KNEW in real time, the Embassy was under siege. Maybe there was a "Silent" Stand down..
    SO,,,, Your Generals,White House, CIA can easily deny giving orders to stand down.
    The buck stops at the President...

    He is in a bad situation no matter what happens.. His JOB is to know! If he didnt know untill a very late hour, thats a concern for me,,, If he Did know,,, and this story is true,, And he used a Video as a cover,,,He should be forced out of office right now,,

    These are people we elect to carry the resposibility as the Leaders of our country.. They speak for us. Its times like this that they earn their keep.

    I agree with RoadKill,, If there was just a Speck of evidence, that the Presidents hands were clean,, and the FOX NEWS of all people were reporting a ficticious story just before an election,,, The PRESIDENT would be all over it,, and drivin the silver stake right through FOX news heart..

    The silence on the matter,, only makes the President look more guilty.. He can clear all this up by addressing the people,, or Congress.. OR MORE IMPORTANTLY the Families of the dead.. Its just that simple..




    We need to really start thinking who we decide to give this job to..

    Mt negative ways of looking at things is, I dont believe that the folks that could really be good at it, dont want anything to do with it.. They are happy in the private sector,, doing just fine for a Ton more money...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I've never said that the administration was clean.

    However, when a 4 Star General, NSC, White House, The Pentagon and CIA all deny giving orders to "stand down", it's pretty clear that the Fox report is bogus!

    They denied it so that makes it true. It would take some doing but that may be the dumbest thing ever written on PP.

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    It's your BS that's bogus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...y-in-benghazi/

    Documents back up claims of requests for greater security in bengazhi
    I haven't read anywhere on POTUS where anyone disputed a request for more security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    I haven't read anywhere on POTUS where anyone disputed a request for more security.

    But as far as I am concerned,, Thats the problem.. More so than the questionable E-mails.

    The Ambassadors DID request more security. Like I said. Its the PRESIDENTS responsibility via the Constitution to protect those appointees. He ignored the request,, on an anniversary very dear to terroists. How can you explain that?? Again,,,, pro active or reactive.

    Then the video B.S.

    The president ingnored his job!! Turned his back on the people who work for us.. He took an Oath.. I bet he payed more attention to fund raising..




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