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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Really? You're going to play that card? I'm a hick from nowhere South Dakota...
    You can't even play that card . U R from MI, & it shows . Even UB won't claim U .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    You can't even play that card . U R from MI, & it shows . Even UB won't claim U .
    Been here 11 years now. Before that I was in Cincinnati for 10. Twenty one years, I barely even remember Michigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    The President, Clinton and Gen Petraeus sat in the situation room in the WH watching in realtime the whole attack for 7+ hours and no help came so thats a BIG problem.
    I agree all we can do is vote. Greata had Senators on last night that said no matter who wins this will not go away they will get to the truth.

    No only will this Failer of Foreign Polocy not go away,, Nor will the debt,,nor will the spending, nor will the Hurricane Victims..

    Romney will spend... It will be up to those we vote into the congress,, mainly those Tea party guys,, to hold his feet to the fire.
    The Platform is on less government.. He has to be held to that .

    The vote for President isnt a vote for King..


    All this Political bickering bothers Gooser. There are serious problems afoot. They need fixed.
    Its not about Fox, ABC, NBC,, its about America and our way of life. Its about the Constitution,, and the founding fathers, and what we as Americans represent.

    We are ALL in this together.. We All know we cant spend money we dont have.. We learn this in our daily lives..
    We know we cant depend on Foreign oil,, or depend on technologies that are decades down the road. We need oil NOW!

    Just look at the hurricane situation.. Thet have been without fuel for 3 days! Look what happens...

    We need our own,, without a bunch of regualtion on it,, to SURVIVE.

    WE NEED to VOTE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Been here 11 years now. Before that I was in Cincinnati for 10. Twenty one years, I barely even remember Michigan.
    See......you are very well traveled!!
    Some of the most exotic places on earth!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Really? You're going to play that card? I'm a hick from nowhere South Dakota...
    YOU come off as as one of those Obama know's it all superiors. If a person on Potus doesn't kiss the "King's" butt we are are either a racist or a backwoods hick in your mind.
    I really don't care what you call me, and you have called me many things.
    I will stand by my principles no matter what.
    There is no way the gov't should take my hard earned money and give what DH and I busted our butts for to them for nothing. I don't care about white, black, purple, whatever. WE did it by ourselves, and I will never support what we worked hard for being paid for by my hard earned money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starjack View Post
    Off subject nice muley How big?
    Thanks starjack, he is tall, but not all that wide... gross about 175" My Whitetail from KS a couple of years ago is actually much heavier, about the same width, just not as tall and they both score about the same... there are plenty of bigger ones out there... I just didn't catch up with them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    This is all such a friggin waste of time!

    We are all convinced what we want to believe..

    The only voice you have is to get out and VOTE!!

    Gettin in a yellin match with Gooser,, Franco,, GMHR1,, Jdogger,, is a huge waste of stale air..

    Grow up!!! Realise its either gonna be a Republican or a Democrate in the white house.
    Pick the constituancy that Fits your beleifs best,, and VOTE. for one or the other.

    Its so very clear..

    Do you believe in limited government,, or do you believe in growing government?

    Do you support Unions and collective barganing?,, or do you believe in Private enterprise and competition?

    Do you have a strong belief in the Costitution and the second ammendment,, or do you believe that ammendment has to have strict ,oppresive, controlls?


    These are just a few points where the 2 different parts constituencies differ clearly, as night and day...

    Its seems so easy to make a decision and vote...

    This Banter about ALL NEWS AGENCIES,, that have become Editorial entertainment programs,, is just a HUGE waste of time.....

    VOTE!!!!


    Its the Only TRUE Way Gooser has of Stickin it to the Left!!,, and they cant do anything about it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    The President, Clinton and Gen Petraeus sat in the situation room in the WH watching in realtime the whole attack for 7+ hours and no help came so thats a BIG problem. WRONG
    I agree all we can do is vote. Greata had Senators on last night that said no matter who wins this will not go away they will get to the truth.

    The below will require you to read a bit, but it might show you that not all the Fox information was or is reliable and that a reason can exist for information of a sesitive nature to be fully reported. It can also show that an open mind is sometimes required when events like this take place and that Fox news and agenda driven web reports might not be the best way to form opinions. Spinning a tragedy like this is as low as a party can get.

    CIA reportedly rushed to aid besieged American consulate


    Revelations come amid GOP accusations that the White House has been misleading public



    By Greg Miller


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    WASHINGTON — The CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes after it had come under attack and played a more central role in the effort to fend off a nightlong siege than has been acknowledged publicly, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

    The agency mobilized the evacuation effort, took control of an unarmed U.S. military drone to map possible escape routes, dispatched an emergency security team from Tripoli, the capital, and chartered aircraft that ultimately carried surviving American personnel to safety, U.S. officials said.

    The account provided by senior U.S. intelligence officials offers the most detailed chronology yet of the Sept. 11 assault that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three
    See LIBYA on Page A10


    other Americans. The attack has become a flash point in the presidential campaign.

    The decision to give a comprehensive account of the attack five days before the election is likely to be regarded with suspicion, particularly among Republicans who have accused the Obama administration of misleading the public by initially describing the assault as a spontaneous eruption that began as a protest of an anti-Islamic video.

    U.S. officials said they decided to offer a detailed account of the CIA’s role to rebut media reports that have suggested agency leaders delayed sending help to State Department officials seeking to fend off a heavily armed mob.

    Instead, U.S. intelligence officials said CIA operatives in Benghazi and Tripoli made decisions rapidly throughout the assault with no interference from Washington.

    There was no secondguessing those decisions being made on the ground, by people at every U.S. organization that could play a role in assisting those in danger,” a senior U.S. intelligence official said in a statement that summarized the chronology of the attack and was made available to the media.

    The information does not address the main source of political controversy surrounding the siege: the shifting assessments offered by administration officials over whether the assault was a protest that turned violent or a planned terrorist attack.

    But officials reiterated that the initial intelligence was fragmentary and contradictory. They said talking points for members of Congress and senior administration officials did not discuss possible links between the attackers and al-Qaida because the information was classified.

    “It wasn’t until after the points were used in public that people reconciled contradictory information and assessed there probably wasn’t a protest around the time of the attack,” the senior U.S. intelligence official said.

    The briefing and material provided Thursday focused on the hour-by-hour developments in Benghazi. Among the disclosures is the CIA station chief in Tripoli sent a security force, with about a half-dozen operatives and two U.S. military personnel to Benghazi aboard a hastily chartered aircraft while the attack was under way.

    The team arrived after midnight and attempted to organize an effort to make its way to a hospital where U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens had been taken.

    But the team was held up by a combination of the time required to secure transportation and arms from U.S.allied militias, new reports that the ambassador was probably already dead and uncertainty about the security situation at the hospital.

    The annex in Benghazi to which U.S. diplomatic personnel were evacuated was a CIA base established as its first stronghold in Libya before Moammar Gadhafi was overthrown last year.

    U.S. officials said the CIA base learned of the assault on the nearby diplomatic compound in a desperate phone call about 9:40 p.m.

    CIA security operatives assembled their gear and lined up vehicles even while agency officials sought, without success, to enlist Libyan militias that had been hired to provide security for the diplomatic outpost in Benghazi.

    “Over the next 25 minutes, team members approach the compound, attempt to secure heavy weapons” from Libyans encountered along the way and “make their way onto the compound itself in the face of enemy fire,” the senior U.S. intelligence official said.

    Shortly after 11 p.m., an unarmed Predator drone diverted from another mission arrived over Benghazi and began providing video surveillance.

    The CIA operatives appear to have been part of a broader group of U.S. security personnel and Libyan guards who made several attempts to fight their way into a structure known as “Villa C,” which served as the safe house and the VIP residence for the mission, and where Stevens had taken cover. Each time, the would-be rescuers were forced to retreat from heavy smoke and flames that had engulfed the structure.

    By 11:30 p.m., “all U.S. personnel, except for the missing U.S. ambassador, depart the mission,” the U.S. intelligence official said. “The exiting vehicles come under fire.”

    By then, attackers had also descended on the CIA compound, about a mile from the diplomatic facility. The “annex,” as the CIA base was known in internal documents, continued to come under small-arms and rocket fire sporadically over the next 90 minutes.

    Then, about 1 a.m., the siege went suddenly quiet, a pause that would last until near daybreak, apparently leading CIA and State Department officials to think that the danger had passed.

    In the “predawn time frame, that team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and armed escort and — having learned that the ambassador was almost certainly dead — heads to the annex to assist with the evacuation,” the official said.

    The team arrived, accompanied by Libyan security elements, at 5:15 a.m., “just before the mortar rounds begin to hit the annex,” the official said. Other accounts have suggested that multiple mortars were aimed at the site, initially missing their target before striking the roof, where guards had taken position and were returning fire.

    Two CIA contractors, both former Navy SEALs, were killed: Tyrone Woods, a security officer based in Benghazi, and Glen Doherty, who was part of the team rushed by air from Tripoli. "





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    Thats why as Tyrone Woods dad puts it.... something stinks....A cover up. they need to get to the truth before or after the election. . Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by U.S. officials -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.
    Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
    Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
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    Gold dogs

    With all due respect,,, Same ol song and dance about arguing WHO is reporting News..

    Washinton Post.... Very Liberal slant... You know they will find someone to help cover their side..

    Its all a waste of time...

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