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    I have been reading that Mitt Romney did not initiate the supposed search for qualified women to join his cabinet when he was governor ...this was done in advance by another organization of women concerned with the inequities of the workplace re career paths & equal pay status , etc.

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    Have you seen the latest? I for one am not surprised... Doesn't he realize that people who remember might be watching???

    http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/tal...he-binder.aspx

    Hey, I know about that binder! And guess what -- Mitt Romney was lying about it.From the rush transcript:
    CROWLEY: Governor Romney, pay equity for women?
    ROMNEY: Thank you. An important topic, and one which I learned a great deal about, particularly as I was serving as governor of my state, because I had the chance to pull together a cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men.
    And I -- and I went to my staff, and I said, "How come all the people for these jobs are -- are all men." They said, "Well, these are the people that have the qualifications." And I said, "Well, gosh, can't we -- can't we find some -- some women that are also qualified?"
    And -- and so we -- we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet.
    I went to a number of women's groups and said, "Can you help us find folks," and they brought us whole binders full of women.
    I was proud of the fact that after I staffed my Cabinet and my senior staff, that the University of New York in Albany did a survey of all 50 states, and concluded that mine had more women in senior leadership positions than any other state in America.
    Now one of the reasons I was able to get so many good women to be part of that team was because of our recruiting effort.
    Not a true story.What actually happened was that in 2002 -- prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration -- a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women's Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.I have written about this before, in various contexts; tonight I've checked with several people directly involved in the MassGAP effort who confirm that this history as I've just presented it is correct -- and that Romney's claim tonight, that he asked for such a study, is false.I will write more about this later, but for tonight let me just make a few quick additional points. First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent. However, as I have reported before, those were almost all to head departments and agencies that he didn't care about -- and in some cases, that he quite specifically wanted to not really do anything. None of the senior positions Romney cared about -- budget, business development, etc. -- went to women.Secondly, a UMass-Boston study found that the percentage of senior-level appointed positions held by women actually declined throughout the Romney administration, from 30.0% prior to his taking office, to 29.7% in July 2004, to 27.6% near the end of his term in November 2006. (It then began rapidly rising when Deval Patrick took office.)
    Third, note that in Romney's story as he tells it, this man who had led and consulted for businesses for 25 years didn't know any qualified women, or know where to find any qualified women. So what does that say?
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    The story has now made it to "The NewYorker."

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...#ixzz29Z4DVU5y
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    Ken, that's priceless...
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    First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent

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    the percentage of senior-level appointed positions held by women actually declined throughout the Romney administration, from 30.0% prior to his taking office, to 29.7% in July 2004, to 27.6% near the end of his term in November 2006.


    which is it?
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    First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent



    However, as I have reported before, those were almost all to head departments and agencies that he didn't care about -- and in some cases, that he quite specifically wanted to not really do anything. None of the senior positions Romney cared about -- budget, business development, etc. -- went to women

    so he didnt care about 42% of his cabinet posts?
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    I think you're getting stuck in the weeds.

    Romney said last night that all men applied for positions. He wondered why no women and that he specifically went out and had this binder of qualified women put together.

    That was apparently not true...
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    Women should feel relieved that they are now going to be able to go home and cook and clean for your husband if Romney is elected. Oh yea if you don’t have a husband by choice and have children you might want to hear his other comment.

    On the subject of one parent families, I know a lot of single parents that did a great job raising your kids, but just think how much better they would have been with two parents, according to Romney. He has a plan to make divorce illegal, he just has to appoint a few more judges.

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