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    Biden must've given BHO lessons on how to act smug & sanctimonious. But like the 2nd debate, I doubt this one changed anyone's mind; just solidified the support each already had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    This is Romney's approach to the debates and the last few weeks of the campaign...

    Except it was not Romney who was lying. He was absolutely correct about his prior and present position on the GM bailout. He was also correct about the status of troops in Iraq ... that was in the headlines when it was refused (it hinged, supposedly, on the refusal of Iraq to give US troops immunity for defending themselves).

    I think they're both bobbing and weaving about specifics on multiple issues. Obama does have info that Romney would not have on foreign policy ... O knows what O may have "under cover", which nobody else does (though it's kind of amazing that Joe hasn't leaked something!)

    I do think that there is truth in peace through strength. I do think that Reagan was able to get concession from Korbachev because of Reagan's resolve to have strength that K felt was overwhelming. Every aggressive power in history has become more aggressive when in the face of weakness and backed off from strength.

    Whatever the details, the withdrawal from Iraq has been chaotic and destructive. Afghanistan is not going much better. I think more could have been made of the fact that Obama's policies toward Egypt and Libya did not result in favorable outcomes for peace in the region. Romney touched on that.

    I do believe that Romney's long-standing friendship with Netanyahu would mean a stronger bond with Israel. I very much liked his response to the question, "What if you got a phone call from Israel, saying they had just launched against Iran?" Romney was credible in saying, "It would never come down to a phone call like that." VERY good response in my way of thinking. Very realistic response.

    Perhaps good strategy to let the 9/11 tragedy not focus the whole debate? There's a lot of stuff in the media about that allows no real response from the WH ... and is not favorable to Obama's competency.

    I think it was about a draw on the debate, with some advantage overall to Obama (especially if you didn't catch to the misstatements of facts). A few one-liners from Obama, a lot of boiler-plate rhetoric that makes a good "speech". Some good responses that were quietly made by Romney (though the backbone response about Putin was a strong one).

    The question would be whether Obama's performance was strong enough to be a game-changer; enough to alter the momentum of Romney's trending upward. I'm thinking it was not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    "Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

    So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...Lookee here, an OBAMA sycophant giving a lecture on competence. How telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    "Romney won the presidential debate by looking presidential."

    So that is the criteria now. Just look the part, no worries about competence...
    What exactly is YOUR criteria???
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    ok, I know I am NOT by any stretch of the imagination a foreign policy guru... but there is one thing that troubled me deeply during the debate last night.

    BOTH were discussing the "opportunity" in other countries and saying we should "arm the opposition" so as to basically make sure things come out 'right' and ensure democracy, human rights, and religious freedom in those places.

    Has that worked for us at any point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARay11 View Post
    ok, I know I am NOT by any stretch of the imagination a foreign policy guru... but there is one thing that troubled me deeply during the debate last night.

    BOTH were discussing the "opportunity" in other countries and saying we should "arm the opposition" so as to basically make sure things come out 'right' and ensure democracy, human rights, and religious freedom in those places.

    Has that worked for us at any point?
    Great point! And, no it has not. What usually happens is that those arms are eventually used against us. I was hoping for a debate and what we saw was them agreeing on many points with an occassional snipe at one another. They would both like to continue with a dysfunctional Foreign Policy.

    That is why it is important to hear other views as most will just eat the crap the Dems and Repubs spew. I was listening to Potus Politics this morning on Sirius/XM. One caller said he was tired of trying to decided between a Socialist and a Fraud and was leaning toward Gary Johnson!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gmhr1 View Post
    Fact checkers agree Romney right Obama wrong especially on the bailout. Romney was right on troops, military, and bailout 3 big issues the Pres said was a lie guess we all know you the liar was.... again.

    Mr President something you may not know marines STILL use Bayonets!
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    Was reading readers' comments on one of the websites on the debate last night.

    Too bad Romney wasn't quicker on the comment about "less bayonets and horses" ... one reader's comment was, "20 Marines with bayonets in Benghazi could have been a great help."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    Was reading readers' comments on one of the websites on the debate last night.

    Too bad Romney wasn't quicker on the comment about "less bayonets and horses" ... one reader's comment was, "20 Marines with bayonets in Benghazi could have been a great help."


    They wouldn't have stood a chance against mortars, RPG's and AK47's that were used in the attack. They would have all been killed!
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