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    With the re-election of the president, it is my hope that we as a country take a step back and look at the situation facing us as a NATION today. We as a nation threw the red flag, issuing a challenge to our leaders. After all, we are all in this together right? We put in place elected officials to represent us. President Obama faces the one of the most difficult challanges of any president in our history. The nation is truly divided. He must reach across the aisle more than ever before. Likewise, politicians who polarize issues must stop getting red in the face from anger and get red in the face from hard work, finding solutions to problems instead of creating more to push foolish agendas. I truly believe the next four years will set the precedent for the next fifty. If we cannot come together as a nation and get behind the elected leaders, we will fall farther into the abyss. I voted for Romney but I am prepared to not complain as long as our too-large government shakes itself free from the rust and begins running as a well oiled machine. This all starts at the local level. We the people must not accept sloth from our leaders. We must show them that we can work together and not be led like sheep to slaughter.

    Do you guys think we can do it? There has been a lot of mud-slinging here the last few months. Are the main slingers prepared to trade in the mud balls for pies? Or will we continue the downfall of America, spitting and kicking like brats as we light the matches that burn our playhouse to the ground?

    Will President Obama accept the challenge that this re-election presents? How with Republicans respond?
    Genesis 27:3 Now then, get your weapons--your quiver and bow--and go out to the open country to hunt some wild game for me.

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    Nope...sorry kid, but you may give me a schiat sandwich but unless you have a gun to my head you cant make me eat it....and if by some chance you are able to pry my mouth open and shove it down my throat , it doesnt mean I have to swallow.....reaching across the aisle is the PC way of saying the loser takes whatever deal the winner wants to spare the rest of the group from annihlation


    We didnt get here in four years, we got here in a generation, long before you were born....unfortunately its my generation, the children of the post Viet Nam 70's that has gotten us here...and we wont get out of it overnight either....until we understand why we got here and the mistakes we made, it would be foolish to start talking about compromise

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    Since I believe that Obama really meant he wanted FUNDAMENTAL change, and since I still believe in the founding principles of our great nation, that is to say that I don't believe that FUNDAMENTAL change would be a good thing, I believe that it is not only NOT incumbent on us to "cooperate" with his agenda, but rather that it is our patriotic duty to RESIST everywhere we can. We need to do our best to thwart the conversion of our great country into a socialist state by letting our elected officials know that where ever possible they should work as hard as possible against this terrible subversion of the long standing principles that made the United States of America what many still think of as the greatest nation on earth.
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    We didnt get here in four years, we got here in a generation, long before you were born....unfortunately its my generation, the children of the post Viet Nam 70's that has gotten us here...and we wont get out of it overnight either....until we understand why we got here and the mistakes we made, it would be foolish to start talking about compromise
    How long can a country run on blaming others? Many people my age complain about the decisions of previous generations. I see no point in that. If we arent proactive, nothing will ever get better. I definately agree that we have to understand where we have been to make wise decisions to form our future... My point is that we can only repeat stupidity for so long before our country self destructs. That stupidity is the unwillingness of anyone to work together. I also understand that change will not take place overnight... hence the comment that the next four years sets the precedent for the next fifty (my generation).
    We need to do our best to thwart the conversion of our great country into a socialist state by letting our elected officials know that where ever possible they should work as hard as possible against this terrible subversion of the long standing principles that made the United States of America what many still think of as the greatest nation on earth.
    For the record I am a gun loving, bible thumping constitutionalist who loves American ideals more than some. Socialism is one of my biggest fears. Does that mean that I think I should sit on my high horse, stick my tongue out, and say that only my views are acceptable? No. I understand that if we as a nation continue to hate others with differing views nothing will ever change. News flash folks: the good old days are in the past. America will not ever be its former industrial power when it is on an uneven playing field against China, policing countries that would rather kill one another, and eating itself from the inside out with hate. It is our time to create new and better times. My post was simply asking if we as a country are going to step up. Unfortunately, I do not think we will until it is too late, and will be too little.

    I can see that the idea of "cooperation" could be seen as giving up. I just cant see anything getting better in the next four years if both sides dont make concessions. In fact, this whole two dominant party is getting old, I wonder if we will ever get out of it and return to the way America was meant to be run... not two parties running the show (scary thought.... the Soviet Union was a 2 party system for a few years!).
    Genesis 27:3 Now then, get your weapons--your quiver and bow--and go out to the open country to hunt some wild game for me.

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    Youngblood, Constitutional views are the only views that should be deemed acceptable. Unfortunately, neither choice feels constrained by that relic. Both candidates are owned by their corporate masters. "We the people" means nothing to them.

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    youngblood, i agree with you when you say "it is our time to create new and better times." in order for us to "create" we need governments to stay out of the way. gridlock, stalemate......whatever you want to call it is the best scenario for the creative. if one knows what the rules are, one can always succeed within that framework. when the rules are always changing one is never certain their creative efforts will pay off.

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    I think cooperation is possible where it does not infringe on the core of our existence of our country the constitution. To just state we all need to cooperate or " just get along" is naive. Will this government cooperate? Of course they will. The problem that this president poses is his seemingly extreme view on where this country needs to be headed. As long as their is common ground that does not infringe on the constitution I think everyone hopes that there will be compromise. Oh and less spending ( I mean investing ) might be nice also.

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    Its inevitable,,,,,,,,, Bend over please,,,

    I totally agree with HPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngblood View Post
    How long can a country run on blaming others? Many people my age complain about the decisions of previous generations. I see no point in that. If we arent proactive, nothing will ever get better. I definately agree that we have to understand where we have been to make wise decisions to form our future... My point is that we can only repeat stupidity for so long before our country self destructs. That stupidity is the unwillingness of anyone to work together. I also understand that change will not take place overnight... hence the comment that the next four years sets the precedent for the next fifty (my generation).

    For the record I am a gun loving, bible thumping constitutionalist who loves American ideals more than some. Socialism is one of my biggest fears. Does that mean that I think I should sit on my high horse, stick my tongue out, and say that only my views are acceptable? No. I understand that if we as a nation continue to hate others with differing views nothing will ever change. News flash folks: the good old days are in the past. America will not ever be its former industrial power when it is on an uneven playing field against China, policing countries that would rather kill one another, and eating itself from the inside out with hate. It is our time to create new and better times. My post was simply asking if we as a country are going to step up. Unfortunately, I do not think we will until it is too late, and will be too little.

    I can see that the idea of "cooperation" could be seen as giving up. I just cant see anything getting better in the next four years if both sides dont make concessions. In fact, this whole two dominant party is getting old, I wonder if we will ever get out of it and return to the way America was meant to be run... not two parties running the show (scary thought.... the Soviet Union was a 2 party system for a few years!).
    Wow!! Somebody that actually can see the big picture. Youngblood, have you heard the expression, "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" That goes for most here. I agree with you in what you just said. People need to quit pouting and get over it. Work together and find a solution that is best for the entire country, not one party or the other. Thumbs up to you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngblood View Post
    How long can a country run on blaming others? Many people my age complain about the decisions of previous generations. I see no point in that. If we arent proactive, nothing will ever get better. I definately agree that we have to understand where we have been to make wise decisions to form our future... My point is that we can only repeat stupidity for so long before our country self destructs. That stupidity is the unwillingness of anyone to work together. I also understand that change will not take place overnight... hence the comment that the next four years sets the precedent for the next fifty (my generation).

    For the record I am a gun loving, bible thumping constitutionalist who loves American ideals more than some. Socialism is one of my biggest fears. Does that mean that I think I should sit on my high horse, stick my tongue out, and say that only my views are acceptable? No. I understand that if we as a nation continue to hate others with differing views nothing will ever change. News flash folks: the good old days are in the past. America will not ever be its former industrial power when it is on an uneven playing field against China, policing countries that would rather kill one another, and eating itself from the inside out with hate. It is our time to create new and better times. My post was simply asking if we as a country are going to step up. Unfortunately, I do not think we will until it is too late, and will be too little.

    I can see that the idea of "cooperation" could be seen as giving up. I just cant see anything getting better in the next four years if both sides dont make concessions. In fact, this whole two dominant party is getting old, I wonder if we will ever get out of it and return to the way America was meant to be run... not two parties running the show (scary thought.... the Soviet Union was a 2 party system for a few years!).
    It's views like these that got us in this mess in the first place. I think that reaching across the isle is the worst possible idea. Why would I reach across the isle and accept your ideas if I think they are the worst thing for the country? The republican party may be "dead" as another thread states but I would much rather stay in this party and have my ideals followed (for the most part) than just be another democratic party.

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