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    I believe it does not matter who gives in. The goverment can work together and do what they percieve to be best for the rest of us.
    And there inlies the problem. The people in this country now believe that goverment is responsible for thier well bieng, and all they need to exsist here on earth. This is not the same country that believed in individualism. God given rights and freedom. It has become a country of takers. When a president asked its citizens not tooooo long ago. "ask not what your country can do for you,but what can you do for your country." This idea has been lost. It is now What can my goverment do for me, and I don't care what god given right I have to give up to get it. Just give me what I need and who cares about the rest of the country. I ask people where do you get your money from and they say the goverment. Ask them where do they get it and they say from thier stash. Yes I am in Philly right now and thats the way it is.
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    It's views like these that got us in this mess in the first place. I think that reaching across the isle is the worst possible idea. Why would I reach across the isle and accept your ideas if I think they are the worst thing for the country? The republican party may be "dead" as another thread states but I would much rather stay in this party and have my ideals followed (for the most part) than just be another democratic party.
    Reaching across the aisle does not mean compromising ideals or accepting another persons ideas as truth. It means the two parties work together to figure out solutions to the HUGE problems our country faces today that both can live with and America can move on. I am not saying if you cant beat em, join em... I am saying we have to work together, like fellow citizens and elected officials are supposed to.

    Also, if the republican party is really dead (come on), we are well on our well on our way to a single party monopoly that ends in more socialism. Why lay down, moan and die? Fight for your party and country, not by going down in flames, fighting tooth and nail, but by changing the image of the party by insisting change in Washington via politicians working together. Voter in 2016 will not notice another politician who only worked for themselves.... They will notice someone who worked for the country, not a party. The polarization of issues come from powerful politicians and has trickled down to regular Americans. Instead of a top down approach (like the tax approach of the Democrats), Republicans need to combat this from the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngblood View Post
    Reaching across the aisle does not mean compromising ideals or accepting another persons ideas as truth. It means the two parties work together to figure out solutions to the HUGE problems our country faces today that both can live with and America can move on. I am not saying if you cant beat em, join em... I am saying we have to work together, like fellow citizens and elected officials are supposed to.

    Also, if the republican party is really dead (come on), we are well on our well on our way to a single party monopoly that ends in more socialism. Why lay down, moan and die? Fight for your party and country, not by going down in flames, fighting tooth and nail, but by changing the image of the party by insisting change in Washington via politicians working together. Voter in 2016 will not notice another politician who only worked for themselves.... They will notice someone who worked for the country, not a party. The polarization of issues come from powerful politicians and has trickled down to regular Americans. Instead of a top down approach (like the tax approach of the Democrats), Republicans need to combat this from the bottom.
    Actually it "working together" in political terms means you "negotiate" what you want. You ever bought a car and not felt in some ways you weren't just screwed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngblood View Post
    Reaching across the aisle does not mean compromising ideals or accepting another persons ideas as truth. It means the two parties work together to figure out solutions to the HUGE problems our country faces today that both can live with and America can move on. I am not saying if you cant beat em, join em... I am saying we have to work together, like fellow citizens and elected officials are supposed to.

    Also, if the republican party is really dead (come on), we are well on our well on our way to a single party monopoly that ends in more socialism. Why lay down, moan and die? Fight for your party and country, not by going down in flames, fighting tooth and nail, but by changing the image of the party by insisting change in Washington via politicians working together. Voter in 2016 will not notice another politician who only worked for themselves.... They will notice someone who worked for the country, not a party. The polarization of issues come from powerful politicians and has trickled down to regular Americans. Instead of a top down approach (like the tax approach of the Democrats), Republicans need to combat this from the bottom.

    Harry ried is on record before the election stating that If Mitt Romney were to win the election,, he wasnt about to work with republicans on important issues...

    Now that the election has come and gone,, he is chastising the possibility of republicans standing their ground,, when those republicans were voted for, and sent there to do just that..
    Do NOT forget youngman what the last midterms were about,, and the fact with the Presidential election,, that CONGRESS didnt change one bit... They have a mandate to controll oppressive spending and taxation.. Do NOT forget that.. I hope half the population doesnt... There will be another mid term in the future.. I will be paying very close attention as to who caves.
    Also dont forget,, that when that last midterm happened,, the people spoke,, and Usually that tells the PRESIDENT he must comprise.. Obama did nothing of the sort..
    Even Bill Clinton,, realised when that happened to him on his second term,, that he must move more centalist.. he did that.



    Huge double standard...


    Its all just like a drug addiction....

    Your problem will never be cured untill you hit bottom,, and YOU decide YOU have to change...

    The bottom is comming up on us all fast.

    I dont think it can get here soon enough..

    Sometimes,, a good slap in the face does us good..

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    Neither Reid nor Obama have given any indication that they will do anything differently than they have been doing for the past four years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post

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    The bottom is comming up on us all fast.

    I dont think it can get here soon enough..

    Sometimes,, a good slap in the face does us good..

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    You are mistaken. This all happened four years ago when trickle down and deregulation brought our entire economy to its knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Clinchy View Post
    Neither Reid nor Obama have given any indication that they will do anything differently than they have been doing for the past four years.

    Neither do the Republicans, listening to them you would think that they won or something.
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    They aren't getting it Youngblood. They lost they can't think past it.
    Working together means compromise NOT getting UP.
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    Compromise to a Democrat means Republicans bend over and grab their ankles... Always has always will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    Compromise to a Democrat means Republicans bend over and grab their ankles... Always has always will.
    No it doesn't. A compromise means both sides give a little to reach an agreement that both sides can be happy with. Neither side gets what they want in it's entirety, they each get some things they want, and each side gives up some things they want. That's why it is called a compromise.

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