Well there is so much back story but I will to sum up. I need some thoughts from those experienced at dealing with hard mouth. I have been working with a GSP (Upland work) on and off for a few years for a client. The dog is highly NAVHDA bred GREAT pedigree and has a ton of drive, extemely friendly with ALL other other dogs and people, was easy to steady on point and handles through a needle for me. He will honor points and retrieves and I tell you this to tell you his assets.
But he has been hard mouth on birds and I can personally just barely keep it managed with extreme attentivness. He is FF with ecollar overlay. With bumpers He calmly chews on a hold and I finally last year overlayed a nick nick on each chomp qnd he will stop and hold correctly but this has to be maintained A LOT. On birds he munches Hard at first pick up and then slows with correction to where he gets managable.
Trouble is he is a client dog and they just are not nearly attentive enough to keep this dealt with. Believe me I have tried every trick in the book with this. The owner is well known for making close shots on quail (which mangles them) and this worsens the issue.
I am to the point that I am considering reccomending he throw in the towel on this dog. The dog needs a handler who is attentive and ON TOP of the issue.
Do you think I am off base here? Is there anything else I could possibly do here? Any detail that I might be overlooking. About at my end here and that is rare for me. I hate failure!
Any thoughts are much appreciated.