Lardy ecollar question

[Wayne Nutt]

When Lardy does ecollar conditioning he is clear as to the transmitter being in the continuous mode. When he does FTP he is clear that it is in the momentary mode.

When he does ecollar indirect pressure and ecollar fetch he talks about "nicks". Is he still in the continuous mode or has he switched to momentary?

[jleve206]

I use the momentary with the tri-tronics collar.

[Howard N]

When he does ecollar indirect pressure and ecollar fetch he talks about "nicks". Is he still in the continuous mode or has he switched to momentary?

Wayne, in the origonal tapes he talks about nicks, stimulation and burns. From that I just assumed he was in continuous mode as some of those corrections on the dog he was doing indirect pressure with looked longer than a preprogramed nick.

I don't think it would make much difference as long as you read the dog and got the timing right.

Been wrong before though.

[Swampbilly]

A REAL dang good question Wayne. I assumed as well that it was continuous.

Just figured in Collar Fetch you're asking the same thing of the dog just in a different way, and if you were pinchin' an ear it wouldn't be a momentary *nick, or pinch, it would be "continuous" untill the dog gets the object in there.

Edit*-
Are you talking about initial Force like Collar Fetch on the table or something else?.

[blake_mhoona]

A REAL dang good question Wayne. I assumed as well that it was continuous.

Just figured in Collar Fetch you're asking the same thing of the dog just in a different way, and if you were pinchin' an ear it wouldn't be a momentary *nick, or pinch, it would be "continuous" untill the dog gets the object in there.

i think in collar fetch the nick from the collar is replacing the swat of the stick not the pinch of the ear. you dont continously beat the dog during stick fetch you tap him after the fetch command same way in collar fetch you nick after the fetch command

[Wayne Nutt]

Swampbilly, In the Lardy system, ecollar fetch is done after all the initial ff work is done (ff, walking fetch, stick fetch, 3 handed casting, ecollar conditioning, 3 handed casting with indirect pressure, refresher on stick fetch) then ecollar fetch.

[Swampbilly]

i think in collar fetch the nick from the collar is replacing the swat of the stick not the pinch of the ear. you dont continously beat the dog during stick fetch you tap him after the fetch command same way in collar fetch you nick after the fetch command

We don't continuously beat any dog, but do tap on the rear flank untill the dog picks up the object off the ground whether it's once, twice, whatever.

[Breck]

I wonder why people continue to post questions about the lardy system here when lardy has never bothered to post an answer to any of them.

[Swampbilly]

Swampbilly, In the Lardy system, ecollar fetch is done after all the initial ff work is done (ff, walking fetch, stick fetch, 3 handed casting, ecollar conditioning, 3 handed casting with indirect pressure, refresher on stick fetch) then ecollar fetch.

Gotcha' Wayne. Had my head in initlal FF' (on the table), when posting.

[DoubleHaul]

Is he still in the continuous mode or has he switched to momentary?

Did the TT Pros have momentary when the videos came out? IIRC, it was just about that time that they came out with it but I would bet even if he had one he was still using continuous even if he wanted to nick.