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    Recall hom we all said "elections have consequences?" Guess Moonbeam and his batch of marxists just can't wait to flex all their newly acquired power. The only point I'd like to make is, you idiots think this will stop the emmigration of your wealthy? You think they got wealthy by being as stupid as the proletariat? And even if you do manage to 'nail' a few of these wealthy realists that recognize the SFN crowd for what imbeciles they are, how often do you expect your corrupt government 'laws' to work. I'll answer that for you...ONCE...

    I can hardly wait for the riots to start. I can about guarantee there will be far more than just the wealthy that will be leaving that God forsaken wasteland.

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    John Smithton, Sacramento Times

    Thursday, November 8, 2012

    LOS ANGELES - Democrats, after gaining a two-thirds majority in both the
    California Assembly and Senate following Tuesday's election, will be
    bringing several new laws forward, all without the need for Republican
    votes.
    The most striking of these is a bill which would restrict wealthy California
    wage earners from leaving the state without facing a large penalty
    assessment on their real estate and financial assets.
    Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown quickly cautioned that he would take any such
    legislation to the voters for ratification, as he did with the temporary tax
    increases that voters approved on Tuesday. And Democrat leaders in both the
    Senate and Assembly downplayed the idea that they would seek any measures
    that would harm California's income tax base.
    It is the first time since 1965 that Democrats controlled a Senate
    supermajority, and the only time since California voters passed Proposition
    13 in 1978, raising the legislative vote threshold to pass tax increases to
    two-thirds.
    Democrats will control at least 27 seats in the 40-member Senate and also
    have a two-thirds margin in the Assembly as well.
    "It's time to start anew and to live within our means but at the same time
    invest in the cornerstone of our future and of our economy. We need those
    fortunate enough with higher incomes to continue paying their fair share,
    and if that means making them pay dearly if they decide to leave our state
    so be it," Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said in
    a telephone interview.
    He later told reporters that he favors continued "tax reform" to broaden
    California's tax base, but if the wealthy continue leaving the state that
    would only place a larger burden on those least able to pay. "I certainly
    don't mean to suggest to my fellow Californian's that we are immediately
    going to raise more taxes," Steinberg said, to comfort those seeking to
    flee. "Any new tax measures will be fair and balanced."
    The California Labor Federation on the left and California Republican Party
    Chairman Tom Del Beccaro on the right both credited public employee unions,
    teacher unions and other core constituencies for electing Democratic
    candidates and helping pass Brown's tax increases.
    "It is a big deal and we have expectations from our labor friends to raise
    revenues." Steinberg said. "That may include additional tax increases, but
    also will involve measures to penalize residents for moving out of the
    state."
    Assembly Speaker John Perez, D-Los Angeles, said he was confident that
    Democrats have the 54 seats they need for a supermajority in his chamber as
    well.
    While Steinberg trumpeted his new found ability to bypass Republicans whom
    he has called "recalcitrant ... and ideologues," Perez pledged to work with
    the minority party even if he could probably ignore them.
    "We get the best results when we have a true competition for the best
    ideas," Perez said, adding later that, "Having a supermajority was never a
    governing imperative. But it makes it much easier for us to pass new
    progressive legislation."
    State Democrats have also proposed forming a new branch of the state police,
    to be known as the "STASI" or "State Team Action to Stem Income" which would
    be staffed with volunteers from every community, monitoring residents
    contemplating moving out of the state. The staffers would report on
    neighbors and family members with moving plans or otherwise acting
    suspiciously.
    The last time either party gained a supermajority in either chamber was in
    the 1976 election, when Democrats won a two-thirds margin in the Assembly.
    It would be the first time since 1933 that one party held simultaneous super
    majorities.
    But Brown said at a Sacramento news conference that it is his role to make
    sure legislative members of his own party do not overindulge. He said he
    will ensure that California does not spend beyond its means, and wants all
    residents to continue living in the state voluntarily.
    "Our desires will always outrun the available money," Brown said. "I always
    like to think with greater power comes greater responsibility.
    On the other hand, we can't have those who helped build our great society
    move out of the state willy-nilly"
    He hedged when asked directly if he might veto the new legislation when it
    arrives on his desk.
    "We're not into the threat game here," Brown said.
    He also said his relationships with the Legislature are "better than they've
    ever been."

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    Where do you get this stuff?????? There is no such paper as the "Sacramento Times" that I can find. There is a Sacramento Bee, California Times, a few others, but no such article in any of 'em. I really would like to see this paper to see who is the publisher. This is scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    Recall hom we all said "elections have consequences?" Guess Moonbeam and his batch of marxists just can't wait to flex all their newly acquired power. The only point I'd like to make is, you idiots think this will stop the emmigration of your wealthy? You think they got wealthy by being as stupid as the proletariat? And even if you do manage to 'nail' a few of these wealthy realists that recognize the SFN crowd for what imbeciles they are, how often do you expect your corrupt government 'laws' to work. I'll answer that for you...ONCE...

    I can hardly wait for the riots to start. I can about guarantee there will be far more than just the wealthy that will be leaving that God forsaken wasteland.

    UB







    John Smithton, Sacramento Times

    Thursday, November 8, 2012

    LOS ANGELES - Democrats, after gaining a two-thirds majority in both the
    California Assembly and Senate following Tuesday's election, will be
    bringing several new laws forward, all without the need for Republican
    votes.
    The most striking of these is a bill which would restrict wealthy California
    wage earners from leaving the state without facing a large penalty
    assessment on their real estate and financial assets.
    Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown quickly cautioned that he would take any such
    legislation to the voters for ratification, as he did with the temporary tax
    increases that voters approved on Tuesday. And Democrat leaders in both the
    Senate and Assembly downplayed the idea that they would seek any measures
    that would harm California's income tax base.
    It is the first time since 1965 that Democrats controlled a Senate
    supermajority, and the only time since California voters passed Proposition
    13 in 1978, raising the legislative vote threshold to pass tax increases to
    two-thirds.
    Democrats will control at least 27 seats in the 40-member Senate and also
    have a two-thirds margin in the Assembly as well.
    "It's time to start anew and to live within our means but at the same time
    invest in the cornerstone of our future and of our economy. We need those
    fortunate enough with higher incomes to continue paying their fair share,
    and if that means making them pay dearly if they decide to leave our state
    so be it," Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said in
    a telephone interview.
    He later told reporters that he favors continued "tax reform" to broaden
    California's tax base, but if the wealthy continue leaving the state that
    would only place a larger burden on those least able to pay. "I certainly
    don't mean to suggest to my fellow Californian's that we are immediately
    going to raise more taxes," Steinberg said, to comfort those seeking to
    flee. "Any new tax measures will be fair and balanced."
    The California Labor Federation on the left and California Republican Party
    Chairman Tom Del Beccaro on the right both credited public employee unions,
    teacher unions and other core constituencies for electing Democratic
    candidates and helping pass Brown's tax increases.
    "It is a big deal and we have expectations from our labor friends to raise
    revenues." Steinberg said. "That may include additional tax increases, but
    also will involve measures to penalize residents for moving out of the
    state."
    Assembly Speaker John Perez, D-Los Angeles, said he was confident that
    Democrats have the 54 seats they need for a supermajority in his chamber as
    well.
    While Steinberg trumpeted his new found ability to bypass Republicans whom
    he has called "recalcitrant ... and ideologues," Perez pledged to work with
    the minority party even if he could probably ignore them.
    "We get the best results when we have a true competition for the best
    ideas," Perez said, adding later that, "Having a supermajority was never a
    governing imperative. But it makes it much easier for us to pass new
    progressive legislation."
    State Democrats have also proposed forming a new branch of the state police,
    to be known as the "STASI" or "State Team Action to Stem Income" which would
    be staffed with volunteers from every community, monitoring residents
    contemplating moving out of the state. The staffers would report on
    neighbors and family members with moving plans or otherwise acting
    suspiciously.
    The last time either party gained a supermajority in either chamber was in
    the 1976 election, when Democrats won a two-thirds margin in the Assembly.
    It would be the first time since 1933 that one party held simultaneous super
    majorities.
    But Brown said at a Sacramento news conference that it is his role to make
    sure legislative members of his own party do not overindulge. He said he
    will ensure that California does not spend beyond its means, and wants all
    residents to continue living in the state voluntarily.
    "Our desires will always outrun the available money," Brown said. "I always
    like to think with greater power comes greater responsibility.
    On the other hand, we can't have those who helped build our great society
    move out of the state willy-nilly"
    He hedged when asked directly if he might veto the new legislation when it
    arrives on his desk.
    "We're not into the threat game here," Brown said.
    He also said his relationships with the Legislature are "better than they've
    ever been."

    You really need to get out of that bubble that the republicans live in. You really do hate anybody that doesn't drink your flavor of cool aid don't yo?. I feel sorry for you to be so angry and disgruntled on a perpetual basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murral stark View Post
    You really need to get out of that bubble that the republicans live in. You really do hate anybody that doesn't drink your flavor of cool aid don't yo?. I feel sorry for you to be so angry and disgruntled on a perpetual basis.
    U wonder why many folks on this forum think you to be a tad short on gray stuff? UB is a valued resource to many of us, that you resort to name calling without provocation does not make you any sort of resource . FYI it's Kool Aid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    U wonder why many folks on this forum think you to be a tad short on gray stuff? UB is a valued resource to many of us, that you resort to name calling without provocation does not make you any sort of resource . FYI it's Kool Aid
    Where did I call him any names? You are an educated man, but need some glasses and a remedial reading comprehension class. There is not one place in that response where I called him any names. He is the king of name calling. Go back and re-read it and show me where I called him names.

    The only resource that I have seen him provide is hatred. If that is a valuable resource, I feel sorry for you too.
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    UB, I hate to tell you this but this article is a hoax. I do however agree that elections have consequences, and just hope this one will not have to bad of ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    U wonder why many folks on this forum think you to be a tad short on gray stuff? UB is a valued resource to many of us, that you resort to name calling without provocation does not make you any sort of resource . FYI it's Kool Aid
    Marvin, the name calling began with the OP calling people on the left idiots "The only point I'd like to make is, you idiots think this will stop the emmigration of your wealthy?", so if you are going to berate someone you may want to start there. As for a valued resource, I find it laughable that anyone that continues to post false articles is a valued resource.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Marvin, the name calling began with the OP calling people on the left idiots "The only point I'd like to make is, you idiots think this will stop the emmigration of your wealthy?", so if you are going to berate someone you may want to start there. As for a valued resource, I find it laughable that anyone that continues to post false articles is a valued resource.
    Maybe he was reading UB's post and thought it was me doing the name calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bill View Post
    Recall hom we all said "elections have consequences?" Guess Moonbeam and his batch of marxists just can't wait to flex all their newly acquired power. The only point I'd like to make is, you idiots think this will stop the emmigration of your wealthy? You think they got wealthy by being as stupid as the proletariat? And even if you do manage to 'nail' a few of these wealthy realists that recognize the SFN crowd for what imbeciles they are, how often do you expect your corrupt government 'laws' to work. I'll answer that for you...ONCE...

    I can hardly wait for the riots to start. I can about guarantee there will be far more than just the wealthy that will be leaving that God forsaken wasteland.

    UB







    John Smithton, Sacramento Times

    Thursday, November 8, 2012

    LOS ANGELES - Democrats, after gaining a two-thirds majority in both the
    California Assembly and Senate following Tuesday's election, will be
    bringing several new laws forward, all without the need for Republican
    votes.
    The most striking of these is a bill which would restrict wealthy California
    wage earners from leaving the state without facing a large penalty
    assessment on their real estate and financial assets.
    Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown quickly cautioned that he would take any such
    legislation to the voters for ratification, as he did with the temporary tax
    increases that voters approved on Tuesday. And Democrat leaders in both the
    Senate and Assembly downplayed the idea that they would seek any measures
    that would harm California's income tax base.
    It is the first time since 1965 that Democrats controlled a Senate
    supermajority, and the only time since California voters passed Proposition
    13 in 1978, raising the legislative vote threshold to pass tax increases to
    two-thirds.
    Democrats will control at least 27 seats in the 40-member Senate and also
    have a two-thirds margin in the Assembly as well.
    "It's time to start anew and to live within our means but at the same time
    invest in the cornerstone of our future and of our economy. We need those
    fortunate enough with higher incomes to continue paying their fair share,
    and if that means making them pay dearly if they decide to leave our state
    so be it," Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, said in
    a telephone interview.
    He later told reporters that he favors continued "tax reform" to broaden
    California's tax base, but if the wealthy continue leaving the state that
    would only place a larger burden on those least able to pay. "I certainly
    don't mean to suggest to my fellow Californian's that we are immediately
    going to raise more taxes," Steinberg said, to comfort those seeking to
    flee. "Any new tax measures will be fair and balanced."
    The California Labor Federation on the left and California Republican Party
    Chairman Tom Del Beccaro on the right both credited public employee unions,
    teacher unions and other core constituencies for electing Democratic
    candidates and helping pass Brown's tax increases.
    "It is a big deal and we have expectations from our labor friends to raise
    revenues." Steinberg said. "That may include additional tax increases, but
    also will involve measures to penalize residents for moving out of the
    state."
    Assembly Speaker John Perez, D-Los Angeles, said he was confident that
    Democrats have the 54 seats they need for a supermajority in his chamber as
    well.
    While Steinberg trumpeted his new found ability to bypass Republicans whom
    he has called "recalcitrant ... and ideologues," Perez pledged to work with
    the minority party even if he could probably ignore them.
    "We get the best results when we have a true competition for the best
    ideas," Perez said, adding later that, "Having a supermajority was never a
    governing imperative. But it makes it much easier for us to pass new
    progressive legislation."
    State Democrats have also proposed forming a new branch of the state police,
    to be known as the "STASI" or "State Team Action to Stem Income" which would
    be staffed with volunteers from every community, monitoring residents
    contemplating moving out of the state. The staffers would report on
    neighbors and family members with moving plans or otherwise acting
    suspiciously.
    The last time either party gained a supermajority in either chamber was in
    the 1976 election, when Democrats won a two-thirds margin in the Assembly.
    It would be the first time since 1933 that one party held simultaneous super
    majorities.
    But Brown said at a Sacramento news conference that it is his role to make
    sure legislative members of his own party do not overindulge. He said he
    will ensure that California does not spend beyond its means, and wants all
    residents to continue living in the state voluntarily.
    "Our desires will always outrun the available money," Brown said. "I always
    like to think with greater power comes greater responsibility.
    On the other hand, we can't have those who helped build our great society
    move out of the state willy-nilly"
    He hedged when asked directly if he might veto the new legislation when it
    arrives on his desk.
    "We're not into the threat game here," Brown said.
    He also said his relationships with the Legislature are "better than they've
    ever been."

    Heeee's Baaaack!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    U wonder why many folks on this forum think you to be a tad short on gray stuff? UB is a valued resource to many of us, that you resort to name calling without provocation does not make you any sort of resource . FYI it's Kool Aid
    You should really read the posts before you comment on them

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