The RetrieverTraining.Net Forums The Retriever Academy
Total Retriever Training with Mike Lardy
Hawkeye Media Gunners Up Tritronics Outdoor Media
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16

Thread: Smear

  1. #1
    Senior Member menmon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,194

    Default Smear

    I want to call some attention to today's politics. Here are a few examples of where accusations were made and later proved to be false, but by the time the truth was known, folk stopped listening. And each and every time, the subject just changed to a new smear attempt with no one saying, I'm sorry...I had this wrong. There is so much of this coming from the right that most people don't buy it anyway.

    Fast and Furious

    Death Panels

    Bengazi (sp?)

    And many others

    These folks need to be held accountable but also need to be given credit when they get it right, but they don't need to be smeared with lies for political gain.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Brad Turner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    539

    Default

    I am not sure I understand... We still don't know all the FACTS about the three examples you gave.
    Mioaks Southbound Sammy JH
    Leatherwood's Here's Your One Chance Fancy

    "Luck is the residue of design"- Branch Rickey

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    SW Minnesota
    Posts
    1,991

    Default

    In relation to the Fast and Furious it seems that no one is denying that we let guns go to Mexico and Americans died because of it, how has that been proved false?

  4. #4
    Senior Member road kill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    New Berlin, WI
    Posts
    10,568

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    I want to call some attention to today's politics. Here are a few examples of where accusations were made and later proved to be false, but by the time the truth was known, folk stopped listening. And each and every time, the subject just changed to a new smear attempt with no one saying, I'm sorry...I had this wrong. There is so much of this coming from the right that most people don't buy it anyway.

    Fast and Furious

    Death Panels

    Bengazi (sp?)

    And many others

    These folks need to be held accountable but also need to be given credit when they get it right, but they don't need to be smeared with lies for political gain.
    I would like to point out that I have commented on this in the past.
    "Death Panels" already exist.

    When they sit you down and tell you the patient is on "pallative care," your insurance then ceases to pay for treatment.
    At least in my case it went that way.

    The difference now is that it may be controlled by bureaucrats.

    As far as the rest of your topics, I don't think any of those things have been answered satisfactorily or finally.
    The last chapters have not yet been written.
    Last edited by road kill; 11-27-2012 at 02:22 PM.
    Stan b & Elvis

  5. #5
    Senior Member coachmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    862

    Default

    Wait, memmon are you actually talking about smear tactics and facts? The problem is you seem to be under the impression that facts can change as needed.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Buzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Brookings, South Dakota
    Posts
    6,752

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Turner View Post
    I am not sure I understand... We still don't know all the FACTS about the three examples you gave.

    We are learning the facts on this one, but it seems that Fox News cut the interview really short once they started coming out. But this is the root of it all:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/egbertowillies/8222250864/


    Also pay particular attention to the comment under the video.
    Last edited by Buzz; 11-27-2012 at 02:28 PM.
    "For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48

    Raven - Moneybird's Black Magic Marker***
    (Esprit's Power Play x Trumarc's Lean Cuisine)
    Mick - Moneybird's Jumpin' Jack Flash***
    (Clubmead's Road Warrior x Oakdale Whitewater Devil Dog)
    Peerless - Moneybird's Sole Survivor
    (Two River's Lucky Willie x Moneybird's Black Magic Marker)

  7. #7
    Senior Member menmon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,194

    Default

    I'm talking about the politicizing of events without the facts. Here is a hot topic...a federal officer dies...lets smear the AG to make hay. An ambassador gets killed so lets smear Susan Rice to make hay without know all the fact....let say there are death panels in the healthcare bill...to scare old folks. Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about....may not want to admit it...but if you don't know what I'm talking about please refer to Murrals post on stupidity.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Georgetown, MA
    Posts
    926

    Default

    How long has Fast and furious been going on?

    Who has been held responsible?

    How long should we wait for these "facts"?


    Long enough until everyone forgets and it fades into the sunset?

  9. #9
    Senior Member coachmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    862

    Default

    Menmon, you're not really wanting to open a discussion on stupidity are you? Isn't it funny how you only bring up topics that in your mind indicate smear tactics committed by the Republican party? It's almost laughable.

  10. #10
    Senior Member menmon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,194

    Default

    No a sting operation...one of many that orginated when this AG was not in office resulted in an officer losing his life and the right has tried to tag this AG and this administration with it to make political hay. These folks that fight these battles know the risk. So he was killed with a gun that was sold to them in a sting operation....if it had not been that gun it would have been another gun....but you guys saw this as an opportunity. Don't feed me this BS that the died officer is your concern.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •