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    Default first time training, and getting discouraged in transition pattern blinds

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3MHpCvCJDk&feature=plcp

    Here is a video of what is becoming a discouraging situation for me. I spent all last week teaching this pattern blind, and when we reache the end of the 120yrd blind she started avoiding some verry minial coveras you will see on the go and return as she approaches the pile. I spent all this week tring to correct her line at the end.

    To begin with when i started teaching this blind i did not even think there would be a problem , but she obviously does not like the change in the height of the grass although it is not but maybe 3in where the bush hog cut uneven.

    Things i have tried.
    1.move up to where she begins to flare and send.
    2. move back away from where she begins to flare and run it from there and correct when she begins to flare.
    3.handle when she flares to get her back on line.

    over the week she has gotten her line a little better but still flares 5 to 10 yards compared to the 15 yards in the video??

    should i be worried about this?
    should i move locations to a place with absolutley nothing to flare from?
    should i just move on to another leg?

    this one week job is turning into a three week one due to this little flare, and i dont know if i should just move locations?

    Thanks alot.
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    Are you talking about that little cover next to the large shrub-tree on the left? Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. I don't think the cover is black and white enough for your dog to understand. You'll need to find a more obvious (to you and dog) piece of cover, one that isn't easy to flair around, and run through it. Starting very close then backing up. The cover you have is so vague
    I don't think the dog is even aware he or she is cheating.

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    thats what i thought, but i dont understand why she is flairing. This is her first pattern blind so i am not trying to force her through cover i just do not understand the flair in her line?? and am trying to stop it. Is this somthing to try and stop at this point or move on?

    Is her line good enough to move on i guess is part of my question.
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    and yes beside the shrub bush.
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    Has she gotten a collar correction near that spot, or maybe whistle stops? I ask because I too see no significant cover to flair. How did she respond to corrections on T work?
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    Yes her line is good enough. I think you are making too big a deal out of the flair. You are trying to teach a pattern blind that you will use over and over from many different directions and distances, it would be very unusual for a dog to run perfectly straight right from the start. As long as your dog isn't avoiding some obvious factor (which will be taught later), don't worry about it. Keep it fun and build on that momentum. Later on you will add factors one by one and teach your dog how to deal with them.

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    she is fine with corrections, and i do not run a collar. She took corections well on t work... she just does a flair at the end.??
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    thanks john i just didnt know if i was telling her it is ok to flair or not take a direct line when i praised her after that kind of line.
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    OK I just watched it again. Now that I look at it twice, it isn't a flair off a factor, she is slightly off line right from the send, then gets to a point out there about 3/4s, and either sees the pattern blind stake, or remembers where it is and turns toward it. My dogs do that all the time, no big deal, you can work on improving the initial line later.

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    yes i have not started any waggon wheel or anything yet ive just been working on momentum, i just figured after running it for 2 weeks straight she would have it down.
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