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    Quote Originally Posted by polmaise View Post
    Why don't you just book some lessons with a 'Trainer'?...I imagine websites and videos would get you as much of a 'cocktail' as the thread?..Anyhow! At least you would be working with 'the dog in front of you'?...rather than some-one else's?..Just a thought!

    Polmaise,

    Good Idea and I am entertaining it. Robert Milner is the only one I can find, but he is 10 hours away, but probably well worth the drive...
    If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonronamo View Post
    Thats for sure!


    I am new to the forum and I posted this thread to get a some opinions, I would have never imagined it would go this long or be this controversial. However, I have read some interesting points on this topic and appreciate everyone's input..

    I would like to educate myself on some of these training methods. Whether or not I use them is to be seen. Knowledge has been an ongoing mission in my life and I am always learning from others, I don't see why these training methods should be any different.

    Does anyone have references to these training methods? Books ,videos, websites....

    I did order a copy of Robert Milners book and visited his website and watched some videos, I must say it's impressive!
    Here are a couple of web sites:
    http://www.clickertraining.com/node/1134

    http://www.video.clickertraining.com/library

    And here are a couple of books:

    Positive Gun Dog Training (you can download this from the net onto your computer)

    Reaching the Animal Mind, by Karen Pryor. More general about the training method, but a really good read.

    Good luck, Jonronomo! It's always good to keep an open mind and figure out what to take from the different methods to fit your style, goals and your dog.

    Jen

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    How do I use birds and bumpers to teach healing?
    After the bumper is seen as a prey object by the dog,,, the trainer then sticks it under his arm pit to keep the dog looking up and staying position. Pretty common technique and easy to apply
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    mark 16:9 -- So then after the lord had spoken unto them,he was received up in heaven, and sat on the right hand of God
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer Henion View Post
    Here are a couple of web sites:
    http://www.clickertraining.com/node/1134

    http://www.video.clickertraining.com/library

    And here are a couple of books:

    Positive Gun Dog Training (you can download this from the net onto your computer)

    Reaching the Animal Mind, by Karen Pryor. More general about the training method, but a really good read.

    Good luck, Jonronomo! It's always good to keep an open mind and figure out what to take from the different methods to fit your style, goals and your dog.

    Jen


    Thanks Jen,



    I will check them out and Yes, it's wise to keep an open mind! Thanks again for the resources...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonronamo View Post
    Thanks Jen,



    I will check them out and Yes, it's wise to keep an open mind! Thanks again for the resources...
    Did I put the Michael Ellis video in here? Best explanation of why clickers work that I have ever heard.

    http://leerburg.com/flix/videodesc.php?id=529

    Ellis, to me is good because he's not a +r only zealot. He just understands and does a good job of explaining how it works.
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    [QUOTE=DarrinGreene;1043277

    Ellis, to me is good because he's not a +r only zealot. He just understands and does a good job of explaining how it works.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed! Haven't seen all of his stuff yet, but what I have seen is very digestible and easy to follow. And it works.
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    Who cares. Her rats are still the smartest. They have titles to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cakaiser View Post
    Who cares. Her rats are still the smartest. They have titles to prove it.
    That's cause they are English rats. She got them when she was at Oxford
    And no fellas, that isn't the Oxford where the skimpily clad young Southern ladies hang out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky Mills View Post
    And no fellas, that isn't the Oxford where the skimpily clad young Southern ladies hang out.
    Forget the one in England, where's this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky Mills View Post
    That's cause they are English rats. She got them when she was at Oxford
    And no fellas, that isn't the Oxford where the skimpily clad young Southern ladies hang out.
    I live right by that one... and this is a true assessment!

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