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How to TEACH short and long retired birds?
When you start with your TEACHING of retired birds how do you proceed?
Do you start with short retireds first?
Do you start with long retireds first?
Do you handle to get bird?
Do you ask for thrower to help to get bird?
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When you start with your TEACHING of retired birds how do you proceed?
Do you start with short retireds first?
I start when they're under a year old. My 11 month old has had dozens of retired gun marks but not hard marks yet. I just want to expose her to the fact that she can't always depend on a gunner being there. Once in awhile I'll do a build up memory bird and retire it on the repeat
I start by retiring the gunner inroute. Not walking away but by just sitting behind a camo umbrella or some such.
Do you start with long retireds first?
Usually shorter simpler ones first. But, I don't like a steady diet of shorter ones. They have to do both.
Do you handle to get bird?
I do with a little bit older dog who handles. I don't want any fights on handling we're training retired guns not handling.
Do you ask for thrower to help to get bird?
Yes, mostly with younger dogs but any dog really. See above on handling. With the quality of help I often have with amateur groups, I'm often better off handling than asking for gunner help.
Last edited by Howard N; 12-20-2012 at 03:10 PM.
Howard Niemi
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Our dogs see retired birds from a very early age because we throw our own marks and throw VERY FEW if any marks from the line, so they have to mark the area...We own a set of Stick Men and I think they have seen the field a total of four times..Originally Posted by Wade
We dont select as to long or short, our dogs will usually pick up the birds in reverse order..with the exception of Brig...for some reason he likes the long bird second, and it took a couple of first series blow outs to figure that out
wont say NEVER, but have been taught and coached to not handle on a mark...will opt to pick up dog first....
have been asked by some trainers to help get the bird (I will usually ask first,especially with younger dogs)...when I am throwing birds by myself, I will make the dog figure it out and dig for the bird, but will help with a hey,hey or hup, hup..or even the hide the bumper game
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Just so happened to work this this morning with my 6MO Tubb pup. http://youtu.be/w1CpF7yWPOU
This is a bit off topic from the OP, Jay, is that the same pup you posted a video of months ago doing long retrieves being only 8 weeks old or so and I do believe it was posted on a Tubb thread?
Probably,She is six month old now,and I just got my second Tubbs puppy this Tuesday.GiGi is making nice retrieves thrown by my birdboy already at 7 weeks.
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