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    I am getting conflicting advice on what to work on with my 4 month old YLF before she goes into training. Some are advising me to just work with live birds and and not to work on obedience at all. Another would like hot dog training to be started and bumper work. Also making sure they get socialized with other people so they are not a one person dog. What would you say are your top things you would like your clients to do with a pup in the first six months that would help you out when they come in?
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    Sounds like you've already picked your pro. I would highly recommend you call him/her and ask exactly what they want you to do with the pup. I think a lot of pro's have to take time to re-teach a lot of things because of bad habits the owners instilled in them before they receive the pup for training. So give him a call, he'll probably appreciate it.

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    Talk to your Pro.

    Mine wanted the puppy to know his name, basic OB - sit, here, heel. They don't have to be perfect but they need a solid understanding of the command. Also CC to sit/here if I was comfortable with doing that. Marking with a white coat out in the field - nothing more than general marking, teaching them to look out, find a gun and then find a bird (light cover using eyes vs. noes, white bumpers, puppy type marks). Kennel trained - will load into truck, will be neat in the kennel run. Not noisy if that is an issue is also preferred. She likes them to be socialized and exposed to as many environments/situations as possible. No jumping on people and other dogs. No biting, even puppy play.

    Every Pro is different, but I think what I've been asked to accomplish is plenty for 4 months that I'll have him and until he heads to boot camp. I do do other things based on the puppy, like hold and heeling drills, a little intro to piles (strictly puppy stuff). But when it comes down to it, the minimum is knowing there name and sit and here commands.

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    I am quite sure that you won't find a single pro anywhere that would advise "not to work on any obedience at all".
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    Socialize the puppy well. Expose to as many different people of different ages and in different situations as you can. Teach it to pay attention to you, to sit, to come, etc. Play games with the pup. Build retrieve desire in the dog. And as others say, talk to your pro. Recently my pro made the comment that he can really tell which dogs had a really good people/dog relationship as a puppy. He says they are a pleasure to train...
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    At 4 months old I can not imagine ZERO OB training. Surely your pup is trained to "Here" and also not to poop on the livingroom floor. I don't use a pro to train my dogs so I can't speak to that, but at 4 months old they would have been on live birds for over 2 months and well into OB training and getting a good start on formal stuff. Just my opinion. Duckdon

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    We send our pups off to Carol Kachelmeyer at 6 months. For the prior 4 months we take him out to see the world, introducing him to a variety of situations, we work on obedience a couple of times each day, starting with sitting before getting fed. By six months the pup is stretched out to doing 200yd+ singles without much cover or terrain, introduced to water & live birds and taught to run to a pile of bumpers.

    The dogs Carol raises from 8 weeks are more advanced at six months than ours but she quickly brings ours up to speed. I love to watch her little ones work. They are so willing to learn at that age.

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    I think my trainer says to wait until he gets them so owners are not creating problems. I am glad to see most do more before six months. Working on sit, stay heel. Intro to live birds and just starting gunfire with a starter pistol (acorn crimps). Doing like fifty yard retrieves so far. I am stopping the live bird retrieves at a high excitement level. Some say to wait on OB until 8 months as it may take some of the drive out of the dog? I think my trainer is talking about the next level from what I am doing.
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    Keep in mind with the OB that you are only doing informal OB and not FORMAL OB. Informal is with rewards, praise, and not alot of correction Formal is way more structured with corrections. You can do formal/simple OB and leave the formal for the pro. The idea is to get pup to understand the commands for now. Remember to intro the gunfire from a distance and slowly.
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    Kendall, I have my daughter as my bird girl. She will do the pops starting at 50 yards. Like I said earlier I have the small acorn 22 blanks to start. Pup is really birdy right now so it's a good time for introduction to gunfire. Yes treat training is what I am doing with mild correction. No healing stick or collar. I want to deliver a nice product for him to work with.
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