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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    They don't lockup the mentally ill. They get stabilized and sent of their way. Only the most serve of cases have extended stay. As has been mentioned, it is almost impossible to determine what they might do.

    More Conceal Carry by law abiding citizens and no more Gun Free Zones is the best solution I've heard so far.
    This was also a shooting in the Clackmas Mall in Oregon last week. This is a interesting follow up to your CCW solution.

    http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Clacka...183593571.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    They don't lockup the mentally ill. They get stabilized and sent of their way. Only the most serve of cases have extended stay. As has been mentioned, it is almost impossible to determine what they might do.

    More Conceal Carry by law abiding citizens and no more Gun Free Zones is the best solution I've heard so far.
    Absolutely. Although these types of people have a deathwish any way. But, armed citizens might have been able get him before he got these little kids and teachers.

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    Newtown high school should not be on my TV right now like this. It's suposed to be the place where I cheered for the Rebels against the Indians.
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    Anyone else wish the news people would get their "facts" straight before publishing/announcing them? The amount of erroneous and contradictory information regarding the shooting, not only as it was happening but now, two days later is extraordinary! First the shooter had an AK submachine gun, then that changed to two handguns with a rifle in the car, now the handguns seem to be taken out of the picture and the 233 rifle (they say that it was an assault rifle) was used for all of the deaths.

    Makes you wonder what is "real" and what has/is fabricated for ratings, shock value, and what is just plain poor reporting!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by firehouselabs View Post

    Makes you wonder what is "real" and what has/is fabricated for ratings, shock value, and what is just plain poor reporting!!!

    Apparently they are rewarded for being first regardless of what tripe they throw out there in that endeavor. Madness...
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    I'm actually amazed at how well both Newtown and CT state police were able to keep certain information under wraps until they were ready to annouce it. The death toll comes to mind.
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    From an interviewee on 60 minutes "The school starts @ 0900 & goes into complete lockdown @ 0905. The shooter broke a window out & opened a door" - this has been in effect for 5 years - the interviewee works at the school. Does anyone besides me see any thing wrong in this scenario? I see plenty, specifically options that should have kept those children safe .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    From an interviewee on 60 minutes "The school starts @ 0900 & goes into complete lockdown @ 0905. The shooter broke a window out & opened a door" - this has been in effect for 5 years - the interviewee works at the school. Does anyone besides me see any thing wrong in this scenario? I see plenty, specifically options that should have kept those children safe .
    That description makes it sound like he tossed a rock thru a window reached thru and turned a knob.
    NOT what happened. I guess now schools will need to install bulletproof glass all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    They don't lockup the mentally ill. They get stabilized and sent of their way. Only the most serve of cases have extended stay. As has been mentioned, it is almost impossible to determine what they might do.

    More Conceal Carry by law abiding citizens and no more Gun Free Zones is the best solution I've heard so far.
    State by State, I worked with Hawaiian inmates, mentally ill inmates were treated pretty much the same as the rest of the inmate population, except the most extreme cases were put in their own unit, mentally retarded, schizophrenia, multiple personalities I've seen it all.

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    Unfortunately, our legal system is not set up to act proactively. A suspicious character can walk back and forth past a bank , but, until he attempts a robbery there is little that law enforcement can do. Same for mental illness. There are a lot of folks out there that span the spectrum from being a bit odd to full blown crazy. Until the person becomes dangerous to themselves or others, there is not much than can be done legally. Any involuntary treatment option must past muster with the legal system. Even then, that option is subject to periodic review.
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