thanks... good advice, I will take it into consideration... I think with this post = #10 so I can reply to a few pms and return some calls I put out there... I think once I nail down 2-3 good breeders / bloodlines, I'll play the waiting game and hopefully something works out... I love window shopping! it stops me from impulse buying... like I've said, this dog will be with us for the next 10+ yrs... if you or anybody happen to get a good lead on a littler, please feel free to let me know.