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    I am just curious as to the general opinion here.

    If "assault weapons" were restricted (as Obama is demanding now), how would the events of last week been different?
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    They wouldn't have been different. The guns were already owned, just like all the rest already out there. Unless they confiscate all of them...
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    well...... everything else the same right?
    so instead of taking two semi-auto handguns and a semi-auto rifle, from his Mom.
    That she had laying about in his reach for whatever reason.
    he would have grabbed two revolvers and a lever action rifle.
    Mom would still be the first killed, school door still be busted and, well...........
    no need to keep typin'
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    There was already had a ban on what people call "assault rifles" in Connecticut. Which is the most ridiculous term I have ever heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Manning View Post
    There was already had a ban on what people call assault rifles. Which is the most ridiculous term I have ever heard.
    Are you talking about the Romney assault rifle ban or the Brady bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    Are you talking about the Romney assault rifle ban or the Brady bill?
    Maybe this:
    Federal Assault Weapons BanFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

    The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban,[1] but no bill has reached the floor for a vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by road kill View Post
    Maybe this:
    Federal Assault Weapons BanFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB), or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

    The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban,[1] but no bill has reached the floor for a vote.
    I thought he meant this one:
    During his 2002 gubernatorial campaign, Romney had been a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban, and had also said he believed "in the rights of those who hunt to responsibly own and use firearms."[128] On July 1, 2004, Romney signed a permanent state ban on assault weapons, saying at the signing ceremony for the new law, "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."[129] The law extended a temporary measure that had been in effect since 1998 and covered weapons such as the AK-47, Uzi, and MAC-10.[129] The same law also modified some other aspects of general firearms licensing regulations.[129]

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post

    Are you talking about the Romney assault rifle ban or the Brady bill?
    Would be the Romney I assume. From what I understand of it though it is not an outright ban. I understand they actually have a state compliant rifle but I don't know what that intells. Firearm was purchased legally but it was an illegal weapon at the time of this horrific tragedy. Nobody knows what happened in that house his mother could very well have been trying to stop him when he shot her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mngundog View Post
    I thought he meant this one:
    Help me out here, when did Romney sign anything that was a law in CT??
    What you posted was relevant to MA.

    .................what effect would these laws have on what happened last week?
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    Hear it is there is a lot to it but under glossary of terms it defines "assault weapons". Connecticut obviously has very strict gun laws. and no not Romney bill it is Connecticut law.

    http://www.jud.ct.gov/lawlib/law/firearms.htm



    Criminal Jury Instructions

    ASSAULT WEAPON

    "Assault weapon" means any one of the following:

    1. Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or any of the following specified semiautomatic firearms: Algimec Agmi; Armalite AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol; Auto-Ordnance Thompson type; Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model 82A1; Beretta AR-70; Bushmaster Auto Rifle and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950 and 100-P; Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max-1 and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and Mini-AT; Federal XC-900 and XC-450; Franchi SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM; Goncz High-Tech Carbine and High-Tech Long Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94 and SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11 Carbien type; Intratec TEC-9 and Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000; Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock model only; Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 Series; Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto Pistol; Springfield Armory BM59, SAR-48 and G-3; Sterling MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr AUG; Street Sweeper and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns; USAS-12; USI Carbine, Mini-Carbine and Pistol; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson "Linda" Pistol.

    2. A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (1) or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (1) may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

    3. Any semiautomatic firearm not listed in subdivision (1) that meets the following criteria:

    (A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

    i. a folding or telescopic stock;

    ii. a pistol grip;

    iii. a bayonet mount;

    iv. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

    v. a grenade launcher.

    (B) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

    i. an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

    ii. a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer;

    iii. a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

    iv. a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

    v. a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

    (C) A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

    i. a folding or telescoping stock;

    ii. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

    iii. a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and

    iv. an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

    4. A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3), or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3), may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

    Source: General Statutes 53-202a (a) (applies to 53-202b -- 202k).

    Commentary: The term "assault weapon" does not include any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable. General Statutes 53-202a (b).

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