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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    Let me get this straight. As far as you are concerned if someone breaks into my house (a crime) steals a gun ( a crime) I should be responsible rather than the criminal????
    NOT!!!!

    How about we try this one on for size.

    Someone walks through an unlocked door at your houseand takes a gun that was standing in plain sight in a gun rack and within the hour takes that gun and commits a crime, fatally wounding someone in the process.
    Do you think that you have exercised due diligence for the care and custody of a lethal weapon ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john fallon View Post
    How about we try this one on for size.

    Someone walks through an unlocked door at your houseand takes a gun that was standing in plain sight in a gun rack and within the hour takes that gun and commits a crime, fatally wounding someone in the process.
    Do you think that you have exercised due diligence for the care and custody of a lethal weapon ?

    john
    YES ,because it was in MY house on private property and he did not have permission to enter so he has committed a crime and unlawfully stolen my property. Once again he has committed a crime by stealing my gun which was in my house on my property.

    There is no law that I'm aware of that states how or what manner I have to keep my gun in my home. Your beating a dead horse ,no one in their right mind would convict the original gun owner if their gun was stolen from their home and used in a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn White View Post
    YES ,because it was in MY house on private property and he did not have permission to enter so he has committed a crime and unlawfully stolen my property. Once again he has committed a crime by stealing my gun which was in my house on my property.

    There is no law that I'm aware of that states how or what manner I have to keep my gun in my home. Your beating a dead horse ,no one in their right mind would convict the original gun owner if their gun was stolen from their home and used in a crime.
    So, I guess you can not site an instance where by comparison you feel the gun owner loses "care and custody" of his gun and has not exercised said "due diligence" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john fallon View Post
    How about we try this one on for size.

    Someone walks through an unlocked door at your houseand takes a gun that was standing in plain sight in a gun rack and within the hour takes that gun and commits a crime, fatally wounding someone in the process.
    Do you think that you have exercised due diligence for the care and custody of a lethal weapon ?

    john
    Since I'm legally posted " no trespassing" the second one inch of their body was on my property before being anywhere near the house they have in fact committed a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john fallon View Post
    So, I guess you can not site an instance where by comparison you feel the gun owner loses "care and custody" of his gun and has not exercised said "due diligence" ?

    john
    I can think a a few but none apply in my house.
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    When I was a young lad there were guns easily accessible to anyone in my house and my grandparents house. I grew up knowing if I touched one of those guns without permission I would get my eyes beat shut. So guess what..... I didn't touch those suckers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john fallon View Post
    How about we try this one on for size.

    Someone walks through an unlocked door at your houseand takes a gun that was standing in plain sight in a gun rack and within the hour takes that gun and commits a crime, fatally wounding someone in the process.
    Do you think that you have exercised due diligence for the care and custody of a lethal weapon ?

    john

    Let's rephrase slightly:


    Someone walks through an unlocked door in your garage (or steals it while parked in your driveway, where you left it as you're unloading groceries or dog food or something)and takes your truck and within the hour takes that truck and runs it full speed through a fence at a school, killing and injuring several children.
    Do you think that you have exercised due diligence for the care and custody of a lethal weapon ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon Potter View Post
    Let's rephrase slightly:


    Someone walks through an unlocked door in your garage (or steals it while parked in your driveway, where you left it as you're unloading groceries or dog food or something)and takes your truck and within the hour takes that truck and runs it full speed through a fence at a school, killing and injuring several children.
    Do you think that you have exercised due diligence for the care and custody of a lethal weapon ?
    An assault auto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    An assault auto?
    Was it a standard or automatic ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john fallon View Post
    Own all the guns of any type that you want and tend to them as you will, but.......The owner of the gun should be responsible for its care and custody.

    So I say to those who have decided to shirk this responsibility. If a crime is committed with a gun that belongs to you, you should be able to be criminally and civilly held responsible along with the person who committed the crime .

    And NO I don't think that this would be an infringement on your right to keep and bear arms.

    john
    Just curious if you hunt or own any guns John. I'm "assuming" you do so I'll run with it. You've been out hunting, shooting flyers, skeet etc... and on the way home you stop to eat. Your shotgun is LOCKED in YOUR vehicle and someone steals the vehicle while eating. The next day they rob a bank and kill someone with YOUR shotgun. So YOU and the thief should be cellmates on death row?

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