I went to a Evan Graham seminar and he does a nice job in force fetching dogs. Just my recommendation. Be careful if you go to a friend to FF they may not really know what they are doing. Many years ago I asked a friend to help collar condition a dog. Real ass turned me off to the collar and many years later find how valuable the collar could/can be. There are some nice articles in Retriever Online about force fetch/ learned fetch.










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