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    Any more hunting pics?
    Lets ask a situation question then.
    How many here hunt in moving water?
    Iirc, one requirement in a ht, is that the dog returns back in a straight line?
    How do you over come this when the current carries the dog down stream and it returns on the bank?

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    Here you go Mark. I hunt a both a mix of inland water and the Atlantic, so lots of tidal current, waves and sea swell out there. Pearl will be a year old in Feb. Hope you enjoy, I did taking them.

    her first hunt in October.









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    Iirc, one requirement in a ht, is that the dog returns back in a straight line?
    Ydrc and if one in 100 (or 1 in 1,000) hunt tests or FTs have a series with moving water, that's a high number.

    MG

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    Now some Atlantic Ocean action.












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    Here you go Mark... I hunt moving water almost excusively.....as in swift mountain smallmouth type rivers. But no, (it may be preferred), but it's not required for dogs in HTs to return in a straight line. Most try to maintain the standards they train for by requiring them to return straight.

    Usually not a factor in lower level JH type test because they will not typically set up cheating entry or return marks. By the time you get to upper level stuff, you should have a dog with solid handling and swimby skills and the knowledge of the difference between training, testing and hunting, so it's really a non issue IMO.

    My dogs have hit the bank 100s of yards down river after making a retrieve. They've also ran up the bank a good ways before entering the water!



















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    Great Photos!

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    Mountain Duck, those are phenomenal pics! Great looking dog as well....

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    I hope you have that 3rd picture, next to the rock with the moss growing on it, in a frame somewhere in you home or office. That a great picture. It needs to be in a Cabela's ad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Teahan View Post
    Any more hunting pics?
    Lets ask a situation question then.
    How many here hunt in moving water?
    Iirc, one requirement in a ht, is that the dog returns back in a straight line?
    How do you over come this when the current carries the dog down stream and it returns on the bank?

    Most all my hunts are around moving water. Many of the HT I have run have been run on rivers, where dogs need to learn current.. The Bird may be placed on land across a river, or in a calm back eddy,, but there is current between the line and the fall..In Fact, I remember one test, where handlers would handle the dog once it picked up the bird, on the far bank, upstream on land, then when the dog was in a place where current would drift the dog back to the line,, they would call the dog back in... SO,,, a straight line on the return really isnt a factor in MANY HT,s

    Common-place to hunt rivers here.

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    Hey Troy, is that one of those rare black Chessies?
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