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View Poll Results: Which 12 ga. Semi-Auto Shotgun would you choose? *and why*

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  • Benelli

    120 43.80%
  • Beretta

    57 20.80%
  • Browning

    42 15.33%
  • Mossberg

    2 0.73%
  • Norinco

    0 0%
  • Remington

    27 9.85%
  • Weatherby

    2 0.73%
  • Winchester

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Thread: Poll on *Hunting* Shotgun(Semi-Auto)*Advice

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    Most folks who know me know that I'm no slouch when it comes to researching and decision making when it comes to making firearm purchases. I'm not a big fan of buyers remorse.

    So like a lot of folks too I've grown up under the Remington(American Made) Label and have been faithful to it for the most part. I've got a Rem. 870 Express 20ga. that my Ol'Man got me when they first came out. It's been flawless through it's almost 20 years and 8k+ Shells later.
    However it seems clear that besides the 870 & 1100 all other Rem. Shotguns(Recently) have and are suffering from severe LACK of Quality Control.

    Being in the business of finding my FIRST 12 Ga. Semi-Auto Hunting Shotgun, naturally my first thoughts were towards Remington.
    .....and onto the VersaMax. Yes I have read the ENTIRE 92 page(1836 posts) Epic VersaMax Topic on ShotgunWorld.com.

    I've read many of the complaints and praises about the VersaMax and as hard as it is to admit I just can't get these few thoughts out of my head. Why would a company allow for their Flagship Shotgun to continue to be pushed out with obvious MAJOR flaws? Bent Barrels, Bent Mag Tubes, FTE's due to a sharp edge on the shell catcher etc. I know folks who are VERY happy with their VersaMax's and I know those who have been sent 3 different barrels, and have had their VM replaced 2-3 times and some who have just got a refund and moved on. These folks are still happy with Remington (Taking care) of them but that is NOT something I want to go through. I want to buy a new shotgun and be satisfied.

    I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm just finding it very difficult to sink $1200-1500 in a Shotgun(Remington VMax) that may or may not work when I get it.

    So I'm looking outwards.

    As it stands it seems Berretta & Benelli currently own the field in Waterfowl Type Hunting Autoloaders. With Browning, Winchester, Remington and Mossberg in the field of play too.

    For now I'm MOSTLY interested in hearing reviews and thoughts on Beretta’s(A400 Xtreme) and/or Benelli's(Vinci/Super Vinci) but by all means please don't hold back on any other gun manufactures who are producing these type shotguns.

    BTW You can look on Shotgunworld.com right now and see topics on Benelli's with FTF issues and Beretta’s failing to function with 3 1/2's so I'm aware they aren't all FLAWLESS

    Fire away folks and Thank You







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    I have a SBE original that I've used to hunt ducks, geese and pheasants. It has performed flawlessly hunting uplands, rivers, lakes, and saltwater. Only time it hasn't cycled is when I was using some real light loads when I first purchased it. It's easy to break down and clean and comes with shims to help you make it fit to you. I love my SBE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin D View Post
    Most folks who know me know that I'm no slouch when it comes to researching and decision making when it comes to making firearm purchases. I'm not a big fan of buyers remorse.

    So like a lot of folks too I've grown up under the Remington(American Made) Label and have been faithful to it for the most part. I've got a Rem. 870 Express 20ga. that my Ol'Man got me when they first came out. It's been flawless through it's almost 20 years and 8k+ Shells later.
    However it seems clear that besides the 870 & 1100 all other Rem. Shotguns(Recently) have and are suffering from severe LACK of Quality Control.

    Being in the business of finding my FIRST 12 Ga. Semi-Auto Hunting Shotgun, naturally my first thoughts were towards Remington.
    .....and onto the VersaMax. Yes I have read the ENTIRE 92 page(1836 posts) Epic VersaMax Topic on ShotgunWorld.com.

    I've read many of the complaints and praises about the VersaMax and as hard as it is to admit I just can't get these few thoughts out of my head. Why would a company allow for their Flagship Shotgun to continue to be pushed out with obvious MAJOR flaws? Bent Barrels, Bent Mag Tubes, FTE's due to a sharp edge on the shell catcher etc. I know folks who are VERY happy with their VersaMax's and I know those who have been sent 3 different barrels, and have had their VM replaced 2-3 times and some who have just got a refund and moved on. These folks are still happy with Remington (Taking care) of them but that is NOT something I want to go through. I want to buy a new shotgun and be satisfied.

    I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm just finding it very difficult to sink $1200-1500 in a Shotgun(Remington VMax) that may or may not work when I get it.

    So I'm looking outwards.

    As it stands it seems Berretta & Benelli currently own the field in Waterfowl Type Hunting Autoloaders. With Browning, Winchester, Remington and Mossberg in the field of play too.

    For now I'm MOSTLY interested in hearing reviews and thoughts on Beretta’s(A400 Xtreme) and/or Benelli's(Vinci/Super Vinci) but by all means please don't hold back on any other gun manufactures who are producing these type shotguns.

    BTW You can look on Shotgunworld.com right now and see topics on Benelli's with FTF issues and Beretta’s failing to function with 3 1/2's so I'm aware they aren't all FLAWLESS

    Fire away folks and Thank You







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    Really don't get that much more with 3.5" so personally I would go to the M-2 Super 90, it's the SBE's little brother but started it all. I don't believe any of the American guns will get 10,000 rounds throught them without major mechanical issues today. Simmon's in Bastrop La has the best price on the S-90 at $1,300 in camo, may be a littel less in black.
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    Love my Super Black Eagle!

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    This may seem like "duh" advice, but have you looked at and shouldered all the ones you are considering? I thought I wanted an SBE 12 years ago until I shouldered it and shot a couple. Ended up with a Winchester Super X2, which IMO looks, feels, balances and points completely different than an SBE.

    I preferred the heavier forearm/barrel balance of the SX2 over the "whippier" balance of an SBE. You may very well prefer something different, but it should be easy to rule out a couple, as IMO they have very different "feels"

    I love to research too, but I honestly think it's a wash when it comes to "which $1200 Auto is better" If you like the Versamax, and can buy one locally that you could inspect, I'd pull the trigger (pun intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Duck View Post
    This may seem like "duh" advice, but have you looked at and shouldered all the ones you are considering?
    No I haven't b/c I can't find them in stock! I haven't seen a 400 Xtreme or Vinci in stock anywhere near where I live. I do however plan on calling a few larger stores and making some drive time to check them out before I 'Pull the trigger'

    But other models considered I've shot and handled plenty. My Local Gun store knows me well and my fingerprints are all over their guns lol

    I'm just starting this Topic to get a feel for what folks like or don't like and MOST IMPORTANTLY "WHY"

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    lifelong Remington 1100 fanguy but their quality control does leave a bit to be desired....I will continue to shoot them because they FIT me..so does the Winchester SX2

    but.....the softest shooting auto that I have ever used was a Beretta 391 Urika/Teknys (it was a sporting clays model)
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    I've got the SBE I and love it. I'm not one to "baby" my guns and the Benelli has prefomed up to it's standard everytime.

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    I own a Vinci and love it. My next gun will be the M2 in camo. Saltwater corrosion and safety in front of the trigger are the only complaints I have with mine. Call G&H Seed in Gueydan. They should have a selection in stock and decent prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajun Kamakazi View Post
    I own a Vinci and love it. My next gun will be the M2 in camo. Saltwater corrosion and safety in front of the trigger are the only complaints I have with mine. Call G&H Seed in Gueydan. They should have a selection in stock and decent prices.
    Yea but that's one of THOSE Trips I'm talking about. I'm hunting on the weekends so that's out for now. I don't plan on buying until Goose closes so I've got time.

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