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    The "stand" posts reminded me of another "adjustment" in the OB classes. The hunting/field command for that expectation is actually "whoa". In one of my regular OB training routines all my retrievers are expected to return to heel from a distance doing "here" spaced with alternating "sit", "whoa", "down" commands and/or remote drops. It is an excellent responsiveness drill.

    As was mentioned "whoa" is very useful at the vets (standing examinations & taking temperatures) and for grooming. I know "whoa" makes "Dremeling" my dogs' hind paws easier and when doing the mandatory bitch checks at HRC hunt tests, too.

    And "whoa" is a given if you are working with pointing Labs.

    One thing I carefully avoided at the classes was mentioning anything about a heeling stick or e-collar.
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    The problem is not uncommon. I got lucky as my obedience trainer had done field. I spoke to him about the commands that I use and some conflicts. We worked it out.

    BTW, obedience is obedience. Read Bill Tarrant's book, HEY PUP, FETCH IT UP to get his take on borrowing from other venues.

    IMO, Darrin's comments are good.
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    We show in obedience, breed, agility, field....dogs quickly learn the difference. No reason a "field trained puppy" can't do a down or a stand, or a "breed ring dog" can't heel with an automatic sit. They're pretty smart animals.
    Get whatever you can from the class, and enjoy the time with your puppy.


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    You would be surprised how quickly dogs/pups can learn situational training. That is they learn they can and are expected to do one thing in one place and another in another place. They are little sponges so take advantage of it. Just don't ask the pup to do a stand or recall in the field, yet.
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    Thank you everyone. Clearly I was over thinking it as I expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KwickLabs View Post
    One thing I carefully avoided at the classes was mentioning anything about a heeling stick or e-collar.
    Again, I'm lucky. My trainer is amenable to both. I use the heeling stick in class.
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    I have gone to puppy class for the distractions. I have used my own commands. Sit, not stay. Heeling on both sides and here. In the pre program they knew where I stood. Guess what, she was class star. When they are pups, treats are okay because they go away.

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    The stand command is one that should be taught. It comes in very helpful for being at the vet, the groomer, for clipping nails, etc. Don't over look it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st retriever View Post
    The stand command is one that should be taught. It comes in very helpful for being at the vet, the groomer, for clipping nails, etc. Don't over look it!
    Not to mention when you are in a police lineup......Thankfully I bleached my hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duk4me View Post
    Not to mention when you are in a police lineup......Thankfully I bleached my hair.
    I thought that looked like you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duk4me View Post
    Not to mention when you are in a police lineup......Thankfully I bleached my hair.
    That is good but off topic!!!
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