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    Default Thoughts on poison birds ?

    I have read that doing to many may cause buggining problems, same with doing multiple marks.
    How do yall train with poison birds, and how often. My dogs are already buggy.

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    If you give them too many with out picking it up first they will get to ignoring it and that will cause a problem with regular marks ...they will be expecting to run a blind and not pay close attention on the marks..If your dog has mastered them then a maintenance schedule of one a week or every other week will usually do...It depends on the dog and their retention limit...If you are having a problem with them in the field I suggest you set up a drill directed to teaching it..They should become comfortable with it and relax ....Can you add some more info on what you call , buggy...You may just have a dog that need to be under better control at the line...Steve S
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    Dogs are steady at the line, just swings the head looking for marks at the gunners. Senior Hunter, one HRCH pass. Mostly always run singles. Think its mostly lack of training the past few months.
    Your scenorio happend today. Couldnt find the mark.
    I ran a single, then had another, called dog off of mark and sent on blind, before sent to memory bird then sent for memory bird, and dog got lost.
    Again we havent trained in a few months, because of work, but had trouble before also.
    Thanks, Brad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    .......My dogs are already buggy.
    That's bad.

    I wouldn't be adding more problems, until I'd figured out how to deal with the ones I already have.
    Your dogs shouldn't be buggy. I think that training on poison birds is going to make it worse.

    And BTW, poison birds are a rare thing in HT. Even in Master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copterdoc View Post
    That's bad.

    I wouldn't be adding more problems, until I'd figured out how to deal with the ones I already have.
    Your dogs shouldn't be buggy. I think that training on poison birds is going to make it worse.

    And BTW, poison birds are a rare thing in HT. Even in Master.
    I thought thay always had poisons in master.
    I usually am shooting flierys or Marshalling or piddeling around, and havnt seen alot of Master Tesst and paid attention.
    Thanks

    Ps. I suuck at Marshaling, shooting fliers and piddeling.
    Last edited by Brad; 01-19-2013 at 07:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    How do yall train with poison birds, and how often. My dogs are already buggy.
    They are first introduced on known blinds. True poison bird blinds I do about twice/ month as part of a KRD. Only 1 out of the 3-4 marks will be a poison bird. I always pick-up the mark in training. I figure I can always leave the line in a trail after the blind so I might as well get some memory after a handle practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad View Post
    I thought thay always had poisons in master.
    Definitely not always.

    Maybe 1 out of 10 tests will have one in one of the three series.

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    Maybe TX folks could chime in as to the prevalence of poison birds in their area.
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    I like all the advice Ive gotten. It has me thinking.
    He wont relax when doing a poison bird .
    Thanks for the help.
    Brad

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    Do yall see many Quads in masters?

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