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    I like tom dokkens approach to teaching place the best. multiple platforms and having the pup move from one to another using the place command and a hand gesture.

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    I started my pup on "place" last week (she's 11 wks old) and she picked it up really fast. I used a plastic bow case first, and now I use a laundry basket flipped upside down. She actually figured out what "place" meant during the first session. It's amazing what a few pieces of kibble will do. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Bird View Post
    I was turned on to the place thing a couple weeks ago and wish it had been earlier. The diff is sit means sit here and dont move until told. To me and how i use place is when i train alone which is more than not the case i can walk out a hundred yards, throw a mark, release my dog, he returns to me with bumper then i line him up and say "place" and there he goes back to his board/mat or now whatever i say place it. This comes in handy for hunting too, say you need your dog 100 or so down river, or your in water to cold for him to stand/sit in, all you need is "Place"
    I started teaching this in the garage, had him sit on his "Place" i tossed a bumper he got it, then i walked him over and said "place" they pick up quick, then just kee[ expanding the distance. WHen at far distances i use a stake with rags on it to mark the board for me...

    This is exactly why I teach it. I start young with place training. When you train alone, having the ability to do remote marks is very important. I think place training makes this much easier for a young dog to understand. I filmed a short video of this with one of the dogs this AM. The dang screen rotation lock was turned on, so the video came out sideways... sorry for that. Here it is, though:

    http://youtu.be/MW50jc8OJow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cut em Shelby View Post
    I like tom dokkens approach to teaching place the best. multiple platforms and having the pup move from one to another using the place command and a hand gesture.
    we use this in FEMA search and rescue to teach casting (and it's part of the test), but... they have to learn to get on one platform, before they will move from one to the next. Most retriever guys, unless they are doing to teach casting this way, only need one platform.

    I teach the FEMA dogs using a procedure similar to Tom's because it needs to be standardized for the volunteers in that program. If I had my way I would teach every directional cast to a single platform, then add multiple platforms to the set up.

    Just me, I like to keep it simple early on.
    Darrin Greene

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    we use this in FEMA search and rescue to teach casting (and it's part of the test), but... they have to learn to get on one platform, before they will move from one to the next. Most retriever guys, unless they are doing to teach casting this way, only need one platform.

    I teach the FEMA dogs using a procedure similar to Tom's because it needs to be standardized for the volunteers in that program. If I had my way I would teach every directional cast to a single platform, then add multiple platforms to the set up.

    Just me, I like to keep it simple early on.
    Casting - was one of the benefits the trainer mentioned when showing us place at the show.

    I always felt sit meant sit and wasn't sure where or why place would make a difference or why it is needed, but I am starting to see where it might come in handy taught as a separate command. I think I am going to add this to my training. Thanks for the all the good comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    we use this in FEMA search and rescue to teach casting (and it's part of the test), but... they have to learn to get on one platform, before they will move from one to the next. Most retriever guys, unless they are doing to teach casting this way, only need one platform.

    I teach the FEMA dogs using a procedure similar to Tom's because it needs to be standardized for the volunteers in that program. If I had my way I would teach every directional cast to a single platform, then add multiple platforms to the set up.

    Just me, I like to keep it simple early on.

    Some Spaniel trainers use a variation of this concept to teach the dog to quarter, placing a white bucket next to the place boards so the dog has to run around the bucket. The place board is phased out first, then the buckets are removed and the dog still runs the taught pattern.

    Place board training is a very usefull skill for a hunting dog.
    "The bird hunter watches only the dog, and always knows where the dog is, whether or not visible at the moment. The dog’ nose is the bird hunters eye. Many hunters who carry a shotgun in season have never learned to watch the dog, or interpret his reaction to scent."
    Aldo Leopold, Round River

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cut em Shelby View Post
    I like tom dokkens approach to teaching place the best. multiple platforms and having the pup move from one to another using the place command and a hand gesture.
    Same here.......working very well
    Labrador Retriever, a 20g & grouse...is there a better combination?

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