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    Default Retriever Club Training Day

    Maybe some could describe what your club does at training days/sessions?
    Let's compare notes.
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    Monkey + Football = You should get the picture Stan
    My observation; very little training gets done, only want to work on multiple marks with alot of handling instead to teaching concepts to build on.

    Disclaimer; I don't do club training days anymore, too much work for too little sugar.
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    Our clubs do not do training days but they do picnic test or trials. They set up a tests and you use it as TRAINING however you want. Run singles off of multiples, work on line manners, run with collar on. To me it's invaluable. I train alone mostly so it is the only place I can train under the trial/test atmosphere. It would be pretty tough to just train on any one thing with 40 people and dogs out there

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    Stan,
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    This time around we re trying something different for the winter months. We have limited training areas because of the snow so have decided to do an hour of obedience training with the group as we are finding this an area that members with their first dogs are struggling with. We will also look at the use of e-collars with this group as they are just learning how to use them. For the more advanced dogs we will concentrate on drills and training concepts. Once spring arrives we hope to move the concepts into the field.One Sunday a month the training will be the responsibility of a member. They will set up a hunt test scenerio and members can run it at their level. All equipment will be used at these days, decoys, mojos, shot guns, multiple holding blind etc. The other 3 Sundays we will take a concept we see that needs work and concentrate on that. Like most things those that showup and put some effort into it should see advancement in their dogs.

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    If you do a search on marking drills, you will no doubt see some threads that include links to Kwicklabs website.

    I think there are many very detailed explainations of set-ups and drills, that would be benificial to most all dog, and levels.

    Y drills, ABCDE drills, W drills ect..

    You can run blinds on your own,, but to get a teaching environment for marking is a hard thing to do without help..

    JmHO

    I havent attended a Club Training day for years.. Just always seemed to be a round the horn triple with a blind,, and everyone wanting to change it up some way.. Not enough work for the time spent..

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    I train with a very focused FT group now where everybody knows pretty much what they need to work on and how to go about it, knows each others dogs and all work together to improve each dog. Club training days over the years proved to be a frustrating waste of time for me in several ways and will I probably not attend another.
    Field Trials are competitions....not everyone gets a "participation ribbon" and they do "keep score"

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    Here was our "training days" last week when I threw birds for Don Remien - Rising Sun Retrievers

    1. Don's assistant's had already aired the dogs out long before sun up

    2. we met at the trailer park/campground and caravan to training grounds 7:45 am sharp

    3. once we reached the grounds Don surveyed the area, while his assistants unloaded the 4 wheelers, I would get a bird sack loaded along with a starter pistol and ample ammo, we would get our radios and head toward our stations, birds were in the air within twenty minutes of being on the grounds...we bird throwers knew the sequence and would not change unless instructed

    4. meanwhile the amateur clients would bring the dogs up and have them in the holding blinds ready to go

    5. it was as efficient as a well oiled field trial...everyone worked, if you weren't running a dog or throwing marks, you were playing bird steward and talking retrieved birds to the drying rack..we would radio in when we got down to two birds so re birding was done efficiently and quickly

    6. we were able to get through a triple or delayed quad with 25 dogs within two hours....we would then shift angles and throw another set of marks

    One of the reasons I enjoy throwing marks for Don and his clients is that they waste very little time, we save the chit chat and gossip for afterwards..Don and his Team are very good at time management, and they get a lot of work in with short days of sunlight...Don is very good at setting up scenarios that will benefit everyone on the truck, no one stands around,everyone works, everyone has a good time and cheers on everyone elses triumphs and good dog work
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    I think another idea would be for clubs who have quite a few members with new pups, is to have maybe 1or 2 folks that are well versed in the yard.

    have those folks take that group of pups through the yard from basic OB to ff, to pile work, ending with the group running their first cld blblind shove each participant homework, then review progress each week
    It is far easier to spit on the work of others than it is to produce something better yourself.
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    1 go over a dill and land set up and get every body on the same page for the morning training.
    2 set up a drill and run all dogs and handlers through. the drill is usually flexible to accomodate most dogs and handlers.
    3 set up and run a land series test usually a triple with 2 blind options and optional walk up poison bird honor and diversion options. the handler can run the test any way they choose in any order and even move the line if they want.
    we break for lunch then repeat evrey thing in the water.
    we limit handlers to 3 dogs and evreybody takes their turn in the field.we allow each handler as much time as they need on the line to accomplish their goals for the day.and split into smaller groups if we are able.some of our more experianced handlers spend more time helping others on these monthly training days than running their own dog but they also train 3-5 days aweek. thats how we do it at river valley hrc.

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