Fear of Gun Control

[Brandoned]

Tell me what purpose an assault rifle has in the hands of Joe American?

Wade, I am just now reading through all 15 pages of this thread, but I will answer this question. If you ever come to the south and have any dealings with hogs or coyotes, trust me you will find a need for an AR style rifle! Also there are many 3 gun Competitions (Rifle/Pistol/Shotgun) that those are the only rifle you will shoot and be competitive with. Plus the bottom line is, they are very fun to shoot! I myself do not own one, but wish I did! Keep in mind, everyday millions of AR style rifles do not kill anyone. If WE give into a AR (I do not call them assault rifles like the lib media does), what is next? They are going after ALL guns and are not going to stop until they get them all. Look at NY for example, they already had a High Cap Mag limit which was 10, that wasn't enough, now it is 7! They are not going to stop until that number is zero!!!

So keep in mind when you say you are for them eliminating AR's, your semi auto shotgun's are the next thing they will be going for....

Oh btw Wade I am not trying to pick on you, but there is not a such thing as a Keckler and Koch shotgun, it is Heckler and Koch, just sayin

[Gerry Clinchy]

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/wat...l?abc=Ct5vpWpS

And will we be depending on ATF to enforce all these gun control measures? Here is another story of an ATF screw-up.

In fairness, this ATF program started in 2004 ... so then one has to ask why the new administration never cleaned it up? If none of this ATF stuff gets to Holder's desk, one has to question the quality of his staff.

[FOM]

Wade,

I don't own an AR15 or Bushmaster, just because I prefer different firearms. I have a wide range to choose from, mostly because I enjoy what each one offers - I love to go shoot paper targets and such, I enjoy hunting, I enjoy being proficient with my firearms. The term "assault rifle" is inaccurate and is used to stir the emotions of an uneducated public, it's a political ploy to attempt to infringe on our 2nd amendment rights. And to think giving up any firearm because it isn't "useful" as a defensive weapon is not very logical, because the defensive use of the AR15 would come into play when you need to be just as well armed as the "enemy" - don't think defensive postures are only in the close quarters like a house or car or a mugging. Giving up a firearm is just like Censorship - can you imagine if now everything you said, wrote, read, heard was censored? If we can't infringe on the 1st amendment, why would we think we can infringe on the 2nd? And if you think the government is beyond abusing their power then you never had family loose everything during WWII just because they happen to be Japanese (and that is very recent history)? Feel free to give up YOUR firearms because once they take one type of firearm they will come after others....this isn't about self defense, hunting or sporting, it's about the Constitution and what separates this country from so many. Here is a blog from a friend I went to college with: http://stevehyde.wordpress.com/2013/...-without-guns/ he gives a great perspective on gun control, yes where he lives the gun control is very strict, but if we aren't careful we could end up like this in many places across this country.

Lainee

[sick lids]

The funny thing about those missing m-4s in Milwaukee is that it is surely not in the hands of a law abiding citizen.Not to mention, if it had been a privately owned, full auto stolen the owner probably would have been jailed!

When the ATF have them they are called personal defense weapons...ironic?

[tuckerdutch]

Isn't there a law that prohibits people from owning a destructive device like a 50 caliber rifle, machine gun, or a canon?

[HPL]

I don't know about canons, but it is a misconception that private citizens can't own full autos. I believe that there is a bit of a licensing process and some fees, but I'm pretty sure that it is possible to legally own machine guns.

[Socks]

Isn't there a law that prohibits people from owning a destructive device like a 50 caliber rifle, machine gun, or a canon?

Seriously!? Wow since I own a .50 caliber muzzle loader it must be a really destructive weapon right? Also, even if you gave me a .50 cal sniper rifle I know someone that could outshoot me with a open sight .308 caliber. It's the indian and not the bow. Also, with the proper licensing(sp?) you can own a "machine gun". As for the canon? I guess all those school mascots better turn those in including the military academies. Don't fall for the political ploys.

[Dustin D]

Isn't there a law that prohibits people from owning a destructive device like a 50 caliber rifle, machine gun, or a canon?

Well considering you don't live in the United States, Yes there is a CA Law that has banned .50 BMG Rifles.

[Dustin D]

I don't know about canons, but it is a misconception that private citizens can't own full autos. I believe that there is a bit of a licensing process and some fees, but I'm pretty sure that it is possible to legally own machine guns.

Correct and the same with Sound Suppressors. In fact here in Louisiana we just passed a law 2 years ago allowing for the Hunting of Outlaw Quadrupeds at Night & with Suppressors.

Here's a better visual for Machinegun Rights Per state etc. Roll Over each state to see more detail.
http://my.opencarry.org/?page_id=154

and YES they are hard to get, very rare, MUST be Registered, very expensive and the paperwork is an 8 months deal

[HPL]

Correct and the same with Sound Suppressors. In fact here in Louisiana we just passed a law 2 years ago allowing for the Hunting of Outlaw Quadrupeds at Night & with Suppressors.

Here's a better visual for Machinegun Rights Per state etc. Roll Over each state to see more detail.
http://my.opencarry.org/?page_id=154

and YES they are hard to get, very rare, MUST be Registered, very expensive and the paperwork is an 8 months deal

Ah, that map indicates that since I live in Texas, as soon as I win the lottery, I'll be able to obtain my Ma Deuce to protect my compound