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    Or maybe the Mass State Police?

    http://www.mlefiaa.org/files/MPTC_NE...anual_2010.pdf

    They call it a "Patrol Rifle"

    "We have found most officers have difficulty hitting the MPTC Q target with regularity using their service pistol at distances further than the 10 yard line. Now, factor in the stress level of a life and death encounter with rapidly evolving circumstances – the actual hit ratio drops even further. Beyond 15 yards the shotgun with multiple round projectile, may yield more hit potential however the recoil and manual operation of the shotgun has historically proved to be an issue with some Officers. If the load is buck shot, beyond 18 yards the shot spread will begin to exceed the width of the torso. This violates the accountability for all rounds down range rule. The slug round provides the logical alternative with longer range, more accuracy and no shot spread. It also has greater penetration which can be considered both a positive and negative factor when considering its use in urban areas or near thin walled homes. Conversely, the most popular patrol rifle round, the 5.56mm NATO (.223 Remington) will penetrate fewer walls than service pistol rounds or 12 gauge slugs.
    The rifle is a superior tool. It allows the officer to either stand off from the threat or, if the situation requires, advance to the threat with the confidence that the tool in their hands can deal with almost any perceived threat. It has the power to deliver lethal terminal ballistics to the threat. It has a larger magazine capacity than our service pistol or shotgun. The longer sight radius makes it potentially a more accurate weapon which lowers the liability to the department."


    Why wouldn't this also apply to non LEOs?

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    WHY does anyone NEED an ASSAULT RIFLE?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin D View Post
    WHY does anyone NEED an ASSAULT RIFLE?

    Well said.
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    http://www.youtube.com/embed/F584p5k...yer_detailpage

    This guy is no dummy,,,, why the 2nd is so important,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    Well said.
    NOT!! Listen carefully at the 1:30 mark what he states about protection. It's a contradiction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    NOT!! Listen carefully at the 1:30 mark what he states about protection. It's a contradiction
    Somebody hear an annoying buzzing sound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    NOT!! Listen carefully at the 1:30 mark what he states about protection. It's a contradiction
    How you figure?

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    So wade would you consider your benelli an assult weapon if it had a pistol grip, or would it be a benelli with a pistol grip?

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    Sarge, I will agree with the background check issue. It affects me negatively but it is something that could possibly help to curb some gun purchases (Although not many). But the magazine issue is completely stupid. If someone is going to go on a mass shooting spree they ALWAYS bring tons of mags along and they are able to reload quickly. Limiting to 10 rounds does nothing when I can reload in less than 3 seconds. It is a rule that will ONLY hurt law abiding citizens. period.

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    I have no issue with buying so-called "assult weapons" or expanding the background check system if it will limit those who should not acquire weapons (felons, mentally unstable, etc.) from acquiring them. What does scare me is the ability of all those rushing to the gun stores to buy guns to know how to safely use them. I see too many stories about someone (or someone's kid) accidentally hurting or killing themselves or someone else by using the "unloaded" weapon. I personally prefer a short-barrel 12-ga. shotgun for personal defense--looks scary to perp and can do plenty of damage.

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