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    Susan, you're a genius!

    Always wondered how many ways Eug goes... guess it depends on how many pubs there are and in what direction.

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    So Jim, when adolescence and drive building creeps up on you and the great behaviors of those puppies begin to deteriorate in exciting situations, I assume you more to a more demanding demeanor?
    Sounds like the perfect time to collar condition and force fetch.

    Sorry Darrin, couldn't resist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard N View Post
    Sounds like the perfect time to collar condition and force fetch.

    Sorry Darrin, couldn't resist.
    You know how I feel Howard but sometimes... We don't get to make the rules!
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    If you need a collar to make a dog come to you then you have issues with training

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barnett View Post
    If you need a collar to make a dog come to you then you have issues with training
    Blanket statements such as this are general pretty dangerous Bob. You tend to get made a fool of eventually.
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    LMFAO!!!! Awesome Susan! Thanks for the translation!
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    Ok, Bridget, I've got this one:




    QUOTE=Colonel Blimp;1066663]Polmaise posted Robert, I'm somewhat underwhelmed by Rugby; however as an Anglo Irishman living in wildest Wales I have a foot in many camps and can turn my coat as the situation demands. The village pub is as you might expect, a hotbed of the Taffia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    Blanket statements such as this are general pretty dangerous Bob. You tend to get made a fool of eventually.
    I think I can handle it.

    Just having fun the same way the poster that mentioned collars was having fun

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    sorry Bob I kinda know Howard, but haven't really posted with you much. I knew he was kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    sorry Bob I kinda know Howard, but haven't really posted with you much. I knew he was kidding.
    No problem. I have done plenty of ecollar training and have nothing against it.
    I have just recently been corrupted by Milner

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    My question was... If you're +r only... is stepping on the leash not against that theory?

    I really have NO PROBLEM with my colleague here stepping on the leash. If fact, I quite like the idea. There's just a flat collar on the dog. It's pretty gentle and has been effective for us in being able to focus on what we're working on vs. continually working on remedial training of basic concepts.

    I just wanted to hear what some of the +r proponents attempting to do retriever work had to say about the idea.
    Stepping on a leash is "allowed." I'd call it negative punishment. You're limiting options.

    It's a bit different if you're stepping on the leash while the dog is bolting away from you and you clothesline him.

    It's even more different if you've set the dog up to be tempted to bolt and you step on the leash to clothesline him.

    In any case, there are probably more efficient ways of teaching the lesson than relying on the leash. Leashes are seat belts, not steering wheels or brakes.
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