Don't think Howard was trying to be a SA - from where I'm "listening" he was implying the problem involves a little of everything he (and others have) cited. Which may mean there's not a quick fix by way of what's been advised, and that he really would like to see how it transpires before advising further. Or maybe I'm mis-Internet-terpreting.
The purpose of this it to get the dog focused on the bird, through the arc and to the ground, then be rewarded with the retrieve, rather than sweat her out by making her sit for ten-fifteen seconds. If she doesn't follow the mark all the way to the ground, don't let her retrieve it. Have your gunner walk out and pick it up with her watching, then repeat. What do you think she is looking for when she turns her head away for a split second? BTW it must be more than a split second as the throw will be in the air for two or three seconds.
Like Howard said, it's hard for us to divine these things over the internet, I wish I was there to see it in person.
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“People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.”
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If dog is doing what John described vs head swinging I would try what he described and put my suggestion in your back pocket for another day.
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I didn't think I was being an wise ass either.
You have gotten several good pieces of advice for head swinging. What if your dog is not head swinging but rather bugging? ie. Something has confused her about what she should be doing? You know she likes retrieving but a disconnect about what to do has somehow crept into her head when a mark is thrown. These often are sensitive dogs, it can happen. Sending fast with a confused dog may not be the best course of action.
None of us are really sure what is going on, so you have to read your dog and decide what is going on inside her head and work to correct it.
You really gotta be careful about how high a pedestal you put your method, your accomplishments, your dog on. There's usually someone who's done more, somewhere. And they may have used a different method than you did! Chris Atkinson 2013
get your dog out and TRAIN! caryalsobrook 2013
Maybe I took Howard's statement about Internet training the wrong way but I have gotten answers on other questions that that were and I thought he was going there. I don't need help that's bad so maybe I jumped the gun. Shell shocked!!thanks for all y'all input to my problem being that I'm not a pro trainer just a guy trying to have fun with my dog. Ill try to explain my problems a little better next time. Howard I have used some of your answers in the past so thanks.