Again thanks guys that's all great! I am new to this and so I joined this forum and man I'm glad I did!! Thanks for all the help! I know it's just a pup that's why I wanted to know if it's normal on the retrieving side! I watch hillmann with that pup and they are outside, That pup retrieves everything but I understand all dogs are different. Thanks again everyone and Mark I live in Visalia, Ca.