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  1. 02-23-2013, 01:46 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by huntinman View Post
    As they all could/can be... That's part of what's great about the sport. You win against some of the big names and those memories stay with you forever.
    in '77 when Roy McFall and Piper went on their prolonged streak of wins 6 Open 10 Amateur, he almost seemed unbeatable..

    Roy came down to Texas to train with Clint and John Luther in the fall of '76 and spent a considerable amount of time until Nov then went to Phoenix and finished 4th in the Open and won the Amateur..Roy knew Piper was hot and ready to go on a roll, and he was determined to proved to the skeptics that he could win outside of the state of Alaska..I went to a few of the trials in the SoCal area the spring of '77 and Piper was just racking up blue ribbons.(will post up the results later)...the guy that just hated seeing Roy the most was Peter Lane w/Kate...Kate set a record for the most second places that year in the Amateur with an astounding 17 second place finishes almost half were to Piper

    Peter Lane /Kate came back and won the National Amateur in '78 ,beating Roy/Kelly, Judy/Honcho and a dog that would win the National that fall in Shadow of Otter Creek with Robert Kennon Jr
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    A few things that I learned still ring true. "Lanse when you get a gift, say thank you and walk away. When you get a screwing walk away. You are going to get a lot more screwings than gifts"
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    Pretty sure it was Jim and Pam Bird......Super good folks!!Who owned itch Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    in '77 when Roy McFall and Piper went on their prolonged streak of wins 6 Open 10 Amateur, he almost seemed unbeatable..

    Roy came down to Texas to train with Clint and John Luther in the fall of '76 and spent a considerable amount of time until Nov then went to Phoenix and finished 4th in the Open and won the Amateur..Roy knew Piper was hot and ready to go on a roll, and he was determined to proved to the skeptics that he could win outside of the state of Alaska..I went to a few of the trials in the SoCal area the spring of '77 and Piper was just racking up blue ribbons.(will post up the results later)...the guy that just hated seeing Roy the most was Peter Lane w/Kate...Kate set a record for the most second places that year in the Amateur with an astounding 17 second place finishes almost half were to Piper

    Peter Lane /Kate came back and won the National Amateur in '78 ,beating Roy/Kelly, Judy/Honcho and a dog that would win the National that fall in Shadow of Otter Creek with Robert Kennon Jr
    Bon,i got to say Bud you are a wealth of knowledge!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tall View Post
    Did Sweet Pea own Itchin' to Go???? (I'm guessing that is the dog you refer to?)

    Itchin to Go ( FC Air Express x Stillwater Peggy) was owned by Dr David Bird, and he was one helluva dog.... Peggy was bred to 5 GREAT dogs who were RHOF members,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd6400 View Post
    Bon,i got to say Bud you are a wealth of knowledge!!!
    it the retriever geek/nerd in me, I was a baseball card collector as a kid and actually read the back of the card
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    Quote Originally Posted by lanse brown View Post
    A few things that I learned still ring true. "Lanse when you get a gift, say thank you and walk away. When you get a screwing walk away. You are going to get a lot more screwings than gifts"
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    I don't see how raising the standards for hunt test will improve the breed. I strongly believe a dog that earned a MH title in the early ninties would still be considered an excellent dog to hunt over today. If you want tougher test run field trials, I think the hunt test program works just fine as is.

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    My thoughts excactly!!! This is what I wanted,alot of input from guys that have seen everything...

    And I got to tell everyone now.It was all done for Northerstorm and the other youngsters.
    You see Northernstorm is third generation trainer,my boy and the grandson of the late Jim Weitzel.Pretty proud of him and what he`s getting out of dogs.
    We train together and unlike my dad and I,don`t fight TOO often.....Ha!!! Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd6400 View Post
    My thoughts excactly!!! This is what I wanted,alot of input from guys that have seen everything...

    And I got to tell everyone now.It was all done for Northerstorm and the other youngsters.
    You see Northernstorm is third generation trainer,my boy and the grandson of the late Jim Weitzel.Pretty proud of him and what he`s getting out of dogs.
    We train together and unlike my dad and I,don`t fight TOO often.....Ha!!! Jim

    Wow, and here I thought it was only us brother's that went nose to nose went it came to training dogs..and the last time we did that is when he wanted me to wash out my dog Straw ...we dont argue anymore, except when I take sides with my SIL
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd6400 View Post
    My thoughts excactly!!! This is what I wanted,alot of input from guys that have seen everything...

    And I got to tell everyone now.It was all done for Northerstorm and the other youngsters.
    You see Northernstorm is third generation trainer,my boy and the grandson of the late Jim Weitzel.Pretty proud of him and what he`s getting out of dogs.
    We train together and unlike my dad and I,don`t fight TOO often.....Ha!!! Jim
    Glad you said that, I was getting ready to say something to him for talking back to you! .
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  9. 02-23-2013, 05:55 PM #49
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    Ha Bill,we have fun..doin some weird stuff with handling but dad said the same of me and the collar!Enjoyed the thread....Jim
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