Had a client dog just diagnosed. Any input is appreciated.
There are many ways to fix it. Prognosis is usually pretty good. Success really depends on efficiency and experience of the surgeon. To my knowledge, I have not come across any studies that show one fixation method is significantly better than another. Find a vet who does alot of them and has good success with his/her method. Take recovery seriously and dont overdue it. It is common to rupture the other cranial cruciate ligament in the other leg after surgery to fix the first rupture. The recommendations I was given was that if a dog is over about 55 pounds, then a TPLO (Tibial Plateau Leveling Osteotomy) or TTA (Tibial Tuberosity Advancement) are the surgical routes of choice. Also, A dog less than 55 pounds can be surgically treated with other techniques, such as lateral suture techniques (which is pretty much where they you 80# test fishing line). With that being said, I know a guy that uses the fishing line technique on heavy dogs when owners cant afford the other surgery, and they do just fine. However, most of them are not working dogs. I'd suggest talking to your vet. The opinions that they may give you are likely based on what they are comfortable with, and if they have a good success rate with minimal complications, go for it.
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I'll give you a non-standard reply.
I decided to retire my 6 yr old Nala after her diagnosis: two .25 Class I tears, but her right knee was expressing lameness.
I opted for prolotherapy on her right knee instead of going the route of two CCL surgeries (left knee would more than likely be done within a year after the right knee).
After 4 therapies (last summer), she has not expressed any lameness. I do not train her anymore nor do I hunt her on land. I did hunt her twice over water this fall and she had no ill effects from any strain of water retrieving (water was fairly deep and not really mucky). I'm happy with the results.
She runs around alot and has on numerous occassions run flat out chasing my golden. She has never expressed any lameness even after "strenuous" play time/walk-run time. <knock on wood>
I can tell when she is running flat out that her right knee/leg does not fully extend like her left knee/leg, but the difference is pretty subtle and probably not noticable by anyone other than me. Then again, when she starts sprinting I'm usually yelling at her to slow down - and she does when she hears me.
My goal was to simply save money along with having a dog that - god willing - will have a healthy knee well into her later years. So far so good.
I do miss having her in the field as well as training her and running her in tests.
Last edited by PhilBernardi; 03-04-2013 at 04:09 PM.
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... .and find a good rehab facility to either do the rehab or guide you in doing it.
We did the nylon repair with my 70 lb. working dog and she did great....ruptured the other one 5 months later - did the same procedure and she did great again. Rehab is definitely the key - we found a great place where she did the underwater treadmill and gave me lots of other exercises to do on my own. Good luck!
For a working dog, I would only do a TPLO, TTA or tight rope. And, my choice would be based on age and energy level of the dog. Followed by lots of rehab.
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The AKC Canine Health Foundation is looking for DNA samples of dogs that have experienced cranial cruciate tears. They have funded two grants.
Musculoskeletal Conditions and Disease
Grant 1762: Use of plasma-derived growth factors to heal cruciate rupture
Dr. Peter Muir, BVSc, PhD; University of Wisconsin, Madison
Grant 1782: Defining the elements of successful cranial cruciate ligament repair
Dr. Gina Bertocci, PhD; University of Louisville
For more information visit http://www.akcchf.org/research/parti...ds-of-dog.html
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Go to Birmingham let DR. Milton do a TPLO--rest the dog for what feels like an eternity and slowly begin rehab. Its a pain but my dog is right at 4 months post TPLO now and doing awesome, you would never know he ever got hurt.
I have forwarded the above link to the U of Mn and they said they will contact the appropriate folks to have the link pulled down.
Here's something ironic. My lab is fine. But as a few friends here already know, one of our family rescue pits has become the most expensive "free dog" in Macon County, with not one, but TWO TPLO notches in her belt. She did one TPLO in Fall 2012 and just had her second done in January 2013. That's why I clicked the link. I was going to see if they wanted Pitbull rescue dog samples for the study! (they did not)
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I truly hope that EdA (Ed Aycock) sees this and responds. He's highly qualified to speak on this subject. He's a vet. He's the past president of the American Canine Sports Medicine Ass'n. He's a field trialer. Most of all, one of his dogs has gone through this. EdA has written a complete history of the recovery and his thoughts on the recovery process. It can be found at:
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Struan's Master of the Hunt JH, WC ("Charlie")
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