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    I bet. I watched him win the Specialty in 2011. My Clyde son was running the derby. I hope to run him in some quals this Spring. When I was inquiring about his litter, Mickey said Clyde was the real deal. There weren't too many litters on the ground at that point. Several folks have used him now. Time will tell what kind of an impact he will have on our breed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Turner View Post
    I bet. I watched him win the Specialty in 2011. My Clyde son was running the derby. I hope to run him in some quals this Spring. When I was inquiring about his litter, Mickey said Clyde was the real deal. There weren't too many litters on the ground at that point. Several folks have used him now. Time will tell what kind of an impact he will have on our breed.
    He has close to 100 or so pups on the ground. He is prepotent and throws himself. Chris has a three year QAA of him Doc, with Derby points, watch for him he is running him in the all- age. Clyde is one if the nicest water dogs around, water is just something to go through. A 60 hour a week second shift job, completely amateur trained, and his first trial dog has taken it's toll otherwise he would be titled. When we aren't shut down by weather we train 6 days a week , never have seen Clyde down!
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    I finally had time to sit down and read this whole thread--what a nice history of some of our foundation goldens. Does anybody remember FC Sir Arthur (besides me, I mean)? Ray Sommers trained him and I was lucky enough to meet them both while we lived in WI. What a clown! He'd spin circles going to the line, on the line, off the line. I never saw a dog spin like that again until Joe Boatright's lab and he was just as exciting to watch as Sir Arthur.
    Shortly after we moved to WI, we met a fellow who had a CH bitch by Sir Arthur out of Roxanne of Arborvita and she was a beautiful hunting machine. My husband came home one day saying he'd found the nice people who owned the female the Loomis' had gotten their dog and they had a litter of puppies and even better, they had a Christmas tree farm! Well, long story short I went from, "We can't afford a dog.", to "How much are they?" HOLY MOSES....a hundred dollars???? For a dog???? to "We can go look at them, but we cannot, under any circumstances, afford a dog." We don't have any place to keep it, you only own a 30-06--not a shotgun (at least I knew that much), I went on and on. My husband said, I can get a gun--they're not expensive (insert Belgium Browning) & besides, it'll save us money, I'll be able to hunt pheasants and chukkars and put food on the table...............sigh. Do you know what happens when you see a litter of golden puppies for the very first time? First they run up to you and wiggle all over the place, then they grab your shoe laces and pull them apart, then when you bend down to retie your shoes, they jump up and lick you all over the place! Well, we bought a pup & paid the breeders $25.00 a month for 4 months. Mr. Williams, the owner of the stud, Stilrovin Luke Adew, was sending his pro down to take first pick. So we chose ours and a second just in case. The pro said he would take the entire litter (not uncommon) and see which ones were worth training. The breeder told him we had aleady given her a deposit, so he could have all of them but one. He took his first pick (thankfully NOT our pick) and took the rest of the litter. We named our pup "Rip" after the first U.S. CH Rip. We knew less than nothing about training, but Don Loomis belonged to a club called W.A.F.T.C. so off my husband and the puppy went to learn how to hunt birds. At a picnic trial, Rip couldn't find the first bird and my husband was very disappointed, but a nice gentleman came up to him and suggested a few things including not to rush the puppy and then invited us up to his place to train. He had a place at Random Lake and his name was Charlie Morgan. Then we met Ray Sommers and Dr. Lardy, and a whole bunch of trainers, owners, and retrievers. Rip ran 3 Derbies, made the Derby list, ran 3 Quals and was QAA and then, a fellow that lived down the road from us named Del Glodowski said Rip was quite nice looking and since he showed dogs on weekends, he'd like to put Rip in the ring.......well, before we knew it, Rip had I don't know how major reserves out of the puppy class and was well on his way to being a really nice dog. Unfortunately, my husband lost his job and although we received an extremely good offer to purchase Rip, we just couldn't sell him. So he grew old in California and that was that. But, he got us started in goldens. Luke Adew became a FC/AFC, Roxanne of Arborvita placed in a trial. We met and trained with the Venerables, Christiansen's, Vern & Ethel Weber and a lot of really nice goldens (and an occasional lab, too). Someplace I have a couple of old F.T. catalogues from WI. with all
    those wonderful old dogs and their owners.
    I remember the goldens were darker red, good sized and some were heavier boned than many of the goldens today.

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    Very, very nice Suzanne. Thank you! I keep saying much of it started here in the Midwest with Goldens. The W.A.F.T.C where I am a life member is celebrating it's 75 year anniversary this year!
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    Great Great story, Suzanne! Thanks for sharing that. Love hearing about you lucky ducks who fall bass akwards into luck with meeting people like Charles Morgan and Dr. Lardy and getting pups from great parents!

    Loved the part about you and hubby arguing about getting the pup and the gun...Look at the heights you've reached! Truly a wonderful story.

    I'll shut up now...

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    Earl, thanks for sharing your observations about Clyde. For rookies like me, it is so valuable to hear from people with your experience and first hand knowledge of specific existing dogs. Really raised my eyebrows. Maybe a good topic for a new thread: Experienced views on current competitors.

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    My Barty grandson.

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    Also, nice photo of Barty in Jeffrey Pepper's book THE GOLDEN RETRIEVER.
    "I love the rod and gun and where they take me."

    "Do not judge a man until you have walked two moons in his moccasins."

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    We certainly were lucky--there we were right in the middle of "all that wonderful golden history" and didn't even know it! I shoulda taken notes....and pictures!
    So glad you've been talking about Clyde. I had finally decided after way too long, to breed one of my girls and thought Clyde would be perfect as she's an outcross and I absolutely love his pedigree, particularly "Sprint". I'd wanted to breed Nell to Sprint, but couldn't make it work--and went with another favorite--Mioak's Main Event--that worked out pretty darn well. In any event, I talked with my vet about breeding an older girl and he said she was as healthy as they came, but why hadn't I done it sooner? I told him I wouldn't breed a litter when there was a recession going on because I'm a worrywart about that sort of thing. Well I did some more research and before I could even contact Clyde's owner, Flirt had what I thought was a bladder infection--it wasn't, it was pyo and I had her spayed. Darn, I sure would have liked to see what those two could have produced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanne Burr View Post
    So glad you've been talking about Clyde. I had finally decided after way too long, to breed one of my girls and thought Clyde would be perfect as she's an outcross and I absolutely love his pedigree, particularly "Sprint". I'd wanted to breed Nell to Sprint, but couldn't make it work--and went with another favorite--Mioak's Main Event--that worked out pretty darn well. In any event, I talked with my vet about breeding an older girl and he said she was as healthy as they came, but why hadn't I done it sooner? I told him I wouldn't breed a litter when there was a recession going on because I'm a worrywart about that sort of thing. Well I did some more research and before I could even contact Clyde's owner, Flirt had what I thought was a bladder infection--it wasn't, it was pyo and I had her spayed. Darn, I sure would have liked to see what those two could have produced.
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    I might have been in line for that one, Suzanne.
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