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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    That and it looks like Blackhawk may have gotten darn near what they wanted. Given it's a 3 day test with Master starting on Friday they could have gone with a natural split at 90 dogs and not closed at 60. But with an O/H Qualifying beginning on Saturday (23 dogs) along with a 26 dog Senior stake they've given themselves very manageable 2 day stakes at 26 dogs each stake. Sunday ought to be a piece of cake. I didn't see pro entries 'clogging up' up the system but rather a pretty organized commitment to achieving quite a bit at the least risk. Have fun judging it Bob!
    Blackhawk is usually done on Sat. with all stakes. Very few of our members live near the grounds (many live almost 2 hours away), so it is nice to not have to travel again on Sunday. Because Master requires the most land, most workers, most equipment, etc., the "hope" is that it will finish it at least by noon on Saturday. With 52 dogs, it should go well. And, if weather or something else happens we have Sunday. Initially, we had two pros entered with about 20 dogs. When they scratched, a few people who checked back were able to enter.
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    This is an intersting and timely thread:..........a few thoughts.
    1. Clubs today either own their own grounds , rely on area landowners or some combination of the two.......which club member has more invested?
    2. Many pro trainers own their own grounds or use grounds of local clubs....which pro has more invested?
    3. Some pro trainers help at trials, some do not........which one has more invested?
    4. A club has its members set up, and run a trial.......if a couple of trucks pro or am run a majority of the dogs .......who has more invested?

    The POINT is some people will take advantage of other people or the system. Pro or Am some people are thoughtless and selfish.
    Some people give, some take.........some leave ducks around the grounds, some put them back in the freezers. Some
    help with mowing some are goldbricks.

    Nobody likes to be used. When they feel they are, then the push back starts.
    Pro or Am..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiRollerlabs View Post
    Blackhawk is usually done on Sat. with all stakes. Very few of our members live near the grounds (many live almost 2 hours away), so it is nice to not have to travel again on Sunday. Because Master requires the most land, most workers, most equipment, etc., the "hope" is that it will finish it at least by noon on Saturday. With 52 dogs, it should go well. And, if weather or something else happens we have Sunday. Initially, we had two pros entered with about 20 dogs. When they scratched, a few people who checked back were able to enter.
    are you saying that the 60 max was reached, you had some scratches, and then were able to fit people into those slots?
    Interesting. At last years MN I recall AKC saying that once the 60 is reached, there could be no "backfilling" if there were scratches.

    Maybe this was before the close date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas D View Post
    are you saying that the 60 max was reached, you had some scratches, and then were able to fit people into those slots?
    Interesting. At last years MN I recall AKC saying that once the 60 is reached, there could be no "backfilling" if there were scratches.

    Maybe this was before the close date.
    This is how it works...EE will take entries until the max is reached. If there are scratches prior to closing date, then EE will accept the scratches (less the handler fee which covers the credit card fee already deducted by the credit card bank/vendor) and allows entries to continue as long as there are slots open. Once a closing date is reached, EE allows no additional entries or scratches. All scratches after the closing date are covered by the club policies noted in the premium and are handled directly between the entrant and the club.
    David Didier, GA

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    Seems to be the hot topic of the day. Some good suggestions on several threads, but will AKC listen and make changes? Do they even care? Clubs lobbied for limits for good reasons, but who is responsible to address the collateral damage caused by those limits and the way they are currently being managed?

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