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    I think I will take Jeff foxworthy's approach for this issue. Feel free to add more and ask questions. Neocon can be used derogatively or as a description to differentiate between the paleo cons

    You might be a neocon if...

    You think we can solve the Middle East issues with our military

    You say you want smaller government as long as there is no cut in military spending

    You claim to want less intrusive govt but support the patriot act

    You say you are pro life, yet support the killing of civilians overseas and comfort yourself by saying its collateral damage

    You don't care that citizens of the US can legally be killed by drones.


    Those are what I can think of now, as a former neocon myself, I finally changed when I would hear stories of Palestinian, Iraqi, afghan, and Syrian Christians who had family members blown up for no reason other than they were living in a Muslim area. This shook me to my core and has led me to pursue non intervention candidates.

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    You might be a neocon if you are prolife and support the death penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudminnow View Post
    Those are what I can think of now, as a former neocon myself, I finally changed when I would hear stories of Palestinian, Iraqi, afghan, and Syrian Christians who had family members blown up for no reason other than they were living in a Muslim area. This shook me to my core and has led me to pursue non intervention candidates.
    Have you read "The Source" by Michener?

    You are equating personal beliefs with something far more complicated than I think you understand - especially if your source is Jeff Foxworthy .
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    No I have not but I will look into "the source".
    And Jeff foxworthy is not a source, I was just using his "you might be a redneck" style.

    Zeus, I would not consider that a neocon thing. I think it is a valid thought for anyone to go through. I could easily flip that on the prochoice crowd that is not necessarily pro choice but pro their choice(food, health care, protection...)

    Neocons increase the size and control of the government in the name of national security.

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    Zeus, where do you come up with this stuff? So let's get this straight if you are against an innocent life being taken and are in favor of a murderer being executed then you're a neocon. Wow! Doesn't surprise me though that a liberal like yourself thinks that way. Aren't most liberals for abortion and against the death penalty? What exactly does that say about the liberal mindset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    Zeus, where do you come up with this stuff? So let's get this straight if you are against an innocent life being taken and are in favor of a murderer being executed then you're a neocon. Wow! Doesn't surprise me though that a liberal like yourself thinks that way. Aren't most liberals for abortion and against the death penalty? What exactly does that say about the liberal mindset?
    I don't know, you might have to ask a liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    Zeus, where do you come up with this stuff? So let's get this straight if you are against an innocent life being taken and are in favor of a murderer being executed then you're a neocon. Wow! Doesn't surprise me though that a liberal like yourself thinks that way. Aren't most liberals for abortion and against the death penalty? What exactly does that say about the liberal mindset?
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    I stand corrected no one is for abortion even the women that have multiple abortions as a means of birth control. You're right jdogger as usual. But you're probably alright with that since it's their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmo View Post
    I stand corrected no one is for abortion even the women that have multiple abortions as a means of birth control. You're right jdogger as usual. But you're probably alright with that since it's their choice.
    I am not "all right" with abortion as a means of birth control. I believe preventive measures are preferable. Unfortunetly we can not hold all people responsible for their bad judgement, and I for one do not wish for you, me, or the state to raise their child for them. Do you?
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    The whole "when does life begin, has been debated," both here and elsewhere, infinitum. Lets not start this again. I'll go out on a limb here, since I'm not quite the bleeding heart liberal you seem to think I am. I'm a pragmatist. Cull them now or cull them later. Remember, I have been defined as a "secular progressive". I'm probably also well described as a neocon. Both terms are used here to convey negative conotations of those we feel have differing views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus3925 View Post
    You might be a neocon if you are prolife and support the death penalty.
    I guess by this definition, I am a NEO-CON.

    I believe in the execution of the perp of a heinous crime where a life is taken..

    I belive in the sanctity of life, especially in the innocent unborn.

    If you believe in the 88% of abortions committed last year in the USA for convenience are OK, and murderers should be allowed to live and, if you think "socio-economic factors should be used to determine when abortions SHOULD occur, then you might be a "secular progressive."


    Just maybe!!!!
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