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Thread: Puzzled or Perplexed, Either Way Cant Figure This One Out, Water Entry/Retrieve

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    Default Puzzled or Perplexed, Either Way Cant Figure This One Out, Water Entry/Retrieve

    I will give you a picture of the dog, her abilities, and the current issue that has come about. I will provide my take from some figuring and look forward to hearing yours.

    Dog Info: 18 months old, black female, out of some really nice dogs that fell in love and made babies. She is steady, rock steady, easily corrected, all vocal corrections. Shes quick, not force fetched, but holds nicely and delivers to hand. She is doing simple doubles, marks well. Just a nice dog, a really nice dog. I got her last month.

    Problem: Dog will no go when at the waters edge. If you have 10 or more yards between you and the water, the dog will haul bawls, hit the water like a ton of bricks, retrieve the bird no matter the distance, each and every time, hands down. No hesitations. Until.....

    So Friday to prep for the HRC test on Saturday, we go to a pond, stand at waters edge, I throw a duck in at about 20 yards, she doesn't budge, she moves forward appears to be rationalizing it in hear head and doesn't go, after some pleading and some physical positioning, she is now in the water. This happens four times in a row. I throw my hands up. I think, okay, its a new pond, never been here, its cold, but no colder than it was two weeks ago at the lake. There were cars driving by, should be a non-factor. The body of water wasn't as big as she is use to......

    So I run a couple of errands and decide to the lake, but a spot shes never been before, I bring a chocolate dog with me to help encourage her if need be. I walk up to the waters edge with her at heel, throw the bumper in, no go. I get my other pup and they both are in the water. I throw it 100 times and they are both getting in with no problems, black girl is back to normal.

    Saturday, go to the test, land was perfect, get to water (after having swam her in a different hole between tests) she is at heel next to the water, dog BIG TIME NO GOES. I pick her up and head home.

    Sunday, while doing some thinking, I load her and the chocolate dog up, I go to a completely new pond. I unload my black girl, I am not standing at the waters edge, I am 15 yards off, throw a bumper in the water, scorched earth on the way to the water, she's flawless, do this about five times, mix in some land marks. Have her heel up next to me at the waters edge, throw the bumper and she hesitates, moves from around me and then decides to go in.

    I think its something to do with being that close to the water, maybe not having enough time to think, I don't know

    I was thinking that she thought the water test was SO EASY that she decided she wasn't going to be insulted. I will have to admit, she humbled me BIG TIME

    Any how, I would love to here some ideas or thoughts, how to correct this.

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    Are you sure the previous owner did not try forcing?
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    OHHHH boy went thru this last summer.....believe it or not was the first time I`ve run into it.Pm me if you want to know what I did. Jim

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    PM at your door step Sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by RailRoadRetrievers View Post
    Forcing what?
    Might be an answer to your own question...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RailRoadRetrievers View Post
    PM at your door step Sir
    Hope this helps...........

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    Please share......whats the big secret?
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    Forcing, (Force Fetch, FTP and Water Force )for those times when a dog may not necessarily want or choose to do the job
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    I'm curious now too jd6400 - please share
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