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    I have a 10 month old lab who has good obedience and marks singles. Just wondering if I should ff or cc first.

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    Collar condition first. You'll want to use your collar as a transition from ear pinch and probably then go right into walking fetch and force to the pile. You don't want to stop in the middle of that progression to do cc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jax View Post
    I have a 10 month old lab who has good obedience and marks singles. Just wondering if I should ff or cc first.

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    Dan
    What training program are you using? The simple answer (and hence the only reason I know it) is to follow the order in your training program. If you don't have one that would be where to start.

    If memory serves, Lardy does FF first, then 3-handed casting, then CC. It's early, so someone correct me if I have that wrong.

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    I would FF first

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    Quote Originally Posted by RookieTrainer View Post
    What training program are you using? The simple answer (and hence the only reason I know it) is to follow the order in your training program.
    Thats the simple and correct answer. It's not a huge issue either way.

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    X 3 on what Rookie Trainer said. Are you following a training program?
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    First dog or 101st... If you are using the collar at all for anything prior to FF, obedience for instance, the dog should be CC to the four actions of come, stay, go and no, to be used in conjunction with this training .

    When you get to FF you can then add fetch to the list

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    Thanks for the help.

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    I don't understand why you would FF first? Shouldn't the dog understand turning pressure off (including collar pressure) before you FF? Not arguing with how anyone else does it, just curious what methods are used if you FF before CC.....

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    I collar condition at about 4-5 months and FF when time allows after that. Currently running a pup that was CCed at 4+ months and FFed at 12 months, after our hunting season closed down and winter set in. So I guess, to answer your question....Collar Condition and then Force Fetch works for me. Don

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