Probably putting the cart in front of the horse and the pup is young (11wks), and not ready for forcing but really loves birds, bumper are semi-OK but BIRDS (Live-Dead Frozen) anything with feathers is heaven, desert are crossed and water forged for birds & feathers. Only problem is I got a Pup that can pluck a bird in 5 seconds, looking for suggestion on how to break this habit before we start breaking skin . We've gotten pass the human puppy biting thing, she has control of her mouth pressure on other objects, it just hasn't transferred over to birds yet. Get a bird in her mouth and invulnerably her eyes glow red and the plucking begins . So I guess I'm looking for hints on how to transfer mouth control over to birds. Yes I could just not give her birds, we've been trying that however, when she's out she will find them, and I feel this is a issue I'll have to deal with eventually, might as well get a head start on it now, before anythings ingrained.